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WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats and Republicans don’t agree on much, but they share a conviction that the government should help American manufacturers, one way or another.

Democratic President Joe Biden handed out subsidies to chipmakers and electric vehicle manufacturers. Republican President Donald Trump is building a wall of import taxes — tariffs — around the U.S. economy to protect domestic industry from foreign competition.

Yet American manufacturing has been stuck in a rut for nearly three years. And it remains to be seen whether the trend will reverse itself.

The U.S. Labor Department reports that American factories shed 7,000 jobs in June for the second month in a row. Manufacturing employment is on track to drop for the third straight year.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 30 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Labor is too expensive for US manufacturing without significant price increases, and given those price increases consumers are purchasing fewer total goods because they simply can't afford more. Too much of their income is going to housing and food costs, neither of which are highly reliant on manufacturing jobs. Consumer spending in dollars may be up, but total goods consumed has to be down at this point.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Labor is too expensive for US manufacturing without significant price increases

This also isn't a problem for just manufacturing. Even USA white collar information workers are competing with information workers in other nations which earn (and cost the employer) a small fraction of the cost of a US worker.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

"..total goods consumed has to e down at this point", is the problem. People just do less; it's also vicious circle. Once housing and food are paid, very little is left. Manufacturing slides, and everyone wants to be a landlord. Increasing the cost of housing. With people buying fewer things, their is less choice. A couple of big monopolies take over the few remaining industries, and over even less choice, as they make cuts. Without disposable time/income, people join fewer clubs, and have fewer hobbies. Wood working, pottery, all cost a fortune.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Don't forget medical expenses as well. The cost of living in the US has been on the rise for decades while wages have remained flat. The simple reality is while the US economy has continued to improve, only the rich have benefited from that and it's approaching the point where the majority of the US population literally can not afford to live in the US. The oligarchs are going to be forced to share that wealth or the entire US economy will collapse and they won't like what happens when a large, angry, and very well armed population decides they're tired of living off the crumbs that fall off the plates of an incredibly tiny group of the ultra wealthy.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago

Also the world market now no longer wants to buy a made in USA product…

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

IDK seems to me Trump is basing everything on just serving the home market, and pissing everybody else off with his baseless trade war.
Catering only to a home market in recession, is probably just about the most idiotic strategy to support the industry, in the history of industry.

Let me see, when was the last time "we" did that?
Oh yeah, that was during the great depression!

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Also his idea of serving the home market is poison

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

He's a moron that doesn't understand economics and ignores the advice of anybody smarter than him (which is pretty much everyone). He has an incredibly simplistic concept of how domestic markets work and doesn't even remotely understand international trade. All he sees is the word "deficit" in "trade deficit" and thinks that means the US isn't getting paid for its exports. It's why he's so hung up on the concept of tariffs (which also don't work like he thinks they do).

The only thing Trump has ever understood is how to rip people off. If he had been born to someone poor Trump would be running the sleaziest used car lot for a thousand miles around somewhere.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 hours ago

Well, the free market would dictate that they should go out of business then.

Shitty companies don't deserve to continue as going concerns if they continue to be shitty companies.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They aren’t stuck. All they have to do is dip into their profits but they won’t. All they have to do is make quality products but they won’t.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Most small business doesn't have that kind of capital reserve.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I don’t know many small businesses that own factories.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

Making all the raw materials used to manufacture things MORE expensive, artificially, arbitrarily, is not protection.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 hour ago

'Protection from Trump'.

That's either 'theyre protected from Trump's shitty tantrums', which isnt true. Or they're 'protected' in the same way that the Mafia demand 'protection money', which sounds a lot more accurate.

America.