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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I wonder how hard to the right he’s going to tack to get the DNC to not be like “oooh, brown man scary! 👻“

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

Aaaand...the inevitable pivot to the center, commences.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (42 children)

Eyes on the ball, it's the policies that matter. If we start seeing watering down of the policies, shoot away, but this on its own means little.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Goddammit can't we have a true progressive for once in a position of real power. Why the fuck is he doing this? See this what happens when we feel hope.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm still holding onto hope but damn.

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let the guy govern for a month before giving up. New Yorkers should pressure him from the left, not just sit back and let the right do it's thing

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

New Yorkers should pressure him from the left,

Just get biden in office and you can pressure him from the left! look at what he's running on!

All the deliberately broken promises and the genocide support later and you're asking us to buy the same unmitigated bullshit again.

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  1. President and NY Mayor are very different in terms of how much they can be pressured. The right & establishment are fighting, why won't you?

  2. Biden was always a shit, especially on Gaza, so the horizon was different from explicitly demsoc + antizionist Mamdani. Even still, there are pretty major differences between biden and trump on domestic policy.

  3. Right now there is a swell of hope and energy on the left bc of the Mamdani campaign -- lay the groundwork there to build a durable movement that won't be demobilized after the election. Get people into mutual aid, ice resistance, abolitionist, etc groups!

Look, no politician is going to embody real change, but we know Cuomo will be a much bigger obstacle. pressuring, as you point out, only goes so far, but you have to start from where you are and develop a movement inch by inch.

It's psychologically easier to be cynical, but it also helps your enemies win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't have the energy to properly respond to this. I don't have any reason to be positive about anything anymore. After decades of betrayal, this is the last one. Fuck politics. Centrists and their republican besties have made positive change completely impossible and your positivity here sickens me.

You've mistaken despair for cynicism.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Big fan of Kshama. I however don't know if this is Mamdani switching sides or Jeffrey Lerner. The DNC isn't both a supremely powerful corrupting influence and an incompetent pile of business yes men who lost to trump twice and are glorifying republicans as republican media are whipping up their audience to assassinate them in their homes.

Pick one, but only one of those descriptions aligns with reality. At this point if he is abandoning the public he's doing so at a time where its unlikely he'll live long enough to profit from it. I still think the better media narrative is "is the DNC caving to anti Israel sentiment?"

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 2 days ago

Feeling like that Star wars "you were the chosen one!!" meme

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Well, it was nice having hope for a few weeks.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Don't fucking compromise.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Can Mamdani fire the establishment goon later? If so, it could be a smart strategic move to qwell the DNC and win his general election.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

I should have known better than to believe something good could happen.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least we’re starting negotiations on policy from the left instead of the center.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

But we're still pre-negotiating, preparatory to rank capitulation like fucking always.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It is my sincere hope that Jeffrey Lerner and his DNC affiliates all get a swift kick in the balls after this election is over.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago
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