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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 109 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And you thought J. Edgar Hoover was paranoid.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is he short? Seems like a short kinda guy

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

5’9”, but I can see that Short Height Indicator Type all over him, some people call it being SHITty

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Cops and pseudoscience go together like chocolate and peanut butter.

For more examples, see "bite mark analysis," "911 call analysis," "blood spatter analysis," roadside drug testing with known false-positives, and even fingerprints (once the gold standard) have up to a 20% error rate.

And that's not even getting into how their methodology is exactly backwards: they have a claim that they set out to prove, but do no work to disprove what they already believe.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago

but do no work to disprove what they already believe.

But that's the LAWYERS job /s

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

I think it's only been used to convict 1 person but, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optography

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[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least he doesn't look paranoid...

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Polygraph measures nervousness, not lies.

So innocent people fail them. And guilty people pass them.

All this does is make remaing people hate him

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who use lie detectors as a machine they think can detect lies are stupid.

The real purpose of the lie detector is to trick the suspect into thinking it can detect lies, to the point where they confess.

Ancient trick. The voodoo magic chicken. "This chicken can tell all lies from truth, and it says you are lying." Who doesn't believe in voodoo magic? So the thief, knowing the jig is up, confesses.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I mean. They're FBI agents....

They all have already had to take at least one to get in, even though they all would have looked into them first and know they don't work. That's still not as bad as the guy having to administer the tests who definitely knows it's bullshit.

It's my favorite example of what happens when we let politicians set rules to govern bureaucrats.

The only reason it's still given is no one high enough in the FBI to be listened to has managed to explain to a president why it's stupid.

A lot of our government is shit because high ranking bureaucrats are shitty are explaining things to idiots

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Real leaders don't need to be paranoid about what their underlings think about them. Fascism is more fragile than it appears.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“[Their] need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.”

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fear and greed. Who is that quote by? It's great.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Believe it or not, it’s from the Star Wars tv series “Andor” of all places. That show was really too good for its source material.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Real leaders would take the time to understand why someone doesn’t like them, do a little self reflection to see if it’s either a valid point or just a perception issue, and then work to fix the issue if there is one. If it’s just a person who just doesn’t like them but is good at their job, just ignore it. If they are truly not a good fit or just a bad actor who just thrives in negativity, then you either find a better fit for them or then you fire them.

I’m very much a pleaser type personality but if someone doesn’t like me for whatever reason, I don’t really sweat it if it doesn’t affect me personally. Most people like me but not everyone and that’s ok. This constant need to be surrounded by yes men and sycophants is just disturbing.

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[–] toppy@lemy.lol 28 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Is polygraph test reliable ? Doesn't it fall under pseudoscience ?

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 25 points 17 hours ago

It is not reliable at all, and yes, it is widely considered to be psuedoscience. Yes, this is a batshit insane scenario

[–] Peer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 14 hours ago

You can even train to beat them, so it’s definitely not a reliable method.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 9 points 13 hours ago

The “original” snowflakes. “I can’t drink from the same water fountain as a colored person!” Type of people.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't FBI agents be able to pass a "lie detector" test? Has anyone told Kash they aren't actual lie detectors?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Polygraphs have always been close to useless even for normal people. Anyone being interrogated isnyoing to be nervous and likely set them off.

However, you have to be slighlty, remotely intelligent to understand that nuance. And that is not an affliction any Trump cabinet appointee has.

Polygraphs provide authoritarians the excuse to get rid of people.

The same way that scientology uses auditing. The point is to instil fear and doubt into whomever you're measuring so that you can manipulate them.

So, they are extremely useful.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Damn dude that's some serious trump energy

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing polygraphs are junk science that doesn't work literally at all.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago

Good thing the system already selects for people that can pass polygraphs without much issue.
It is also junk technology.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't the FBI trained to beat polygraphs though?

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

What a dork-ass loser.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lol. I've lied during lie detector tests and still passed.

Hoping our FBI officials are capable of doing the same.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It'd be funnier if they passed while being as sarcastic as possible just to mess with him

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Yes I support the United States Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic 😏

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[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why do none of these clowns know polygraphs don't work

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Comparing them to clowns is an insult to clowns.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 8 points 1 day ago

🤡 We demand to be taken seriously.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

government of fragile masculinities

[–] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Enforcing polygraph testing will invariably make people less trusting of you. There needs to specific reasons that target specific people.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

All these fascists are such little weeny piss babies.

And all the alpha bros look up to them, how embarrassing.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

He could also use a plethysmograph to see which male staff likes him.

NB: Polygraphs are a hilarious pseudo-science just slightly above palm reading and astrology.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

literally a 30 rock episode

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is great news. This means they are think he is regarded.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I don't think so.

They're weeding out non-loyalists because the fascism is going to be ratcheted up tremendously, and for that to happen, they need people without a conscience. True believers.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Dudes a meth head

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