People always say the Democrats are out of touch. While that is certainly true, that's not the real issue here. The Democrats know perfectly well what they would have to do to defeat Trump. It's blindingly obvious, after all. The point is they don't want to do any of those things.
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It's partly that, but it's also that doing what Democrats want never seems to get the turnout that it should.
Biden did student loan forgiveness, which should have given him all the college votes, yet people shurg and go "Well yea! About time!"
He puts money into infrastructures and unions and again, people go "I guess, it's a bit better than Republicans!"
Democratic voters suck ass at rallying behind any cause, because the base is filled with "well actually...!" people, that demand 100% problem completion on day one, otherwise they are not impressed.
And even if he solved every problem ever, they'd say, "Well yea, he should fix them... He caused most of them!"
Meanwhile, Republican voters will literarily vote for a rapist because they see the bigger picture. For as stupid as they are, they understand you have to be IN POWER to do anything.
Twirling your thumb in your asshole pining about raising taxes and fist past the post and equality for all and protecting minorities is a colossal waste of time if you don't VOTE.
Eh. I get what you’re saying, but so much of the disillusionment from the potential dem base is coming from their constant promises and constantly arriving at the obvious conclusion decades late and then acting like they’re the most progressive politician in human history. While in reality it’s a half step toward the policies we should’ve enacted forty years ago.
It’s not that people are like “so what.” It’s the deep seeded knowledge in all of us that the party will try to throw us crumbs and claim like they’ve always been on our side and are the most righteous policy makers that are saving us, when in reality they’re walking hand in hand with people that are pushing us to absolute limit of barely acceptable and then dangling what they’ve known they should’ve done forever ago in front of us when we’re finally at our breaking point.
They don’t care about us. They’re not beholden to us, and it shows. They’re beholden to money and are performatively throwing us scraps when they have an opponent so far right that it’s literally the threat of fascism. And they are very much responsible for the continued rightward march of the entire country.
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Biden did student loan forgiveness, which should have given him all the college votes, yet people shurg and go “Well yea! About time!”
He dithered and only reluctantly did this. And then when he did, he did it in a way that a corrupt SCOTUS could overrule. There were other paths he could have taken, but he chose the least-confrontational approach and ultimately the court negated most of his efforts. His fault or not, very few people actually ended up getting their loans forgiven. If he failed to consider a hostile SCOTUS in his plans, then that is a strategic failure on his part.
He puts money into infrastructures and unions and again, people go “I guess, it’s a bit better than Republicans!”
His infrastructure bills are currently being torn to pieces as they were slow to actually spend their money. They were mired in everything bagel liberalism. A thousand requirements for dollar spent meant to solve every social ill under the Sun. But regardless, these bills didn't directly help individuals. They may be necessary to curb the rise of China, but that's not something that affects people's lives directly. Unionization? Biden was unable to stem the decline in union numbers, and he himself chose to be a strikebreaker.
He dithered and only reluctantly did this. And then when he did, he did it in a way that a corrupt SCOTUS could overrule. There were other paths he could have taken, but he chose the least-confrontational approach and ultimately the court negated most of his efforts.
I'm gonna gut check this, because I remember him trying couple of times to work out student debt relief. Also, what other steps would you have taken to get student debt relief/forgiveness pushed though? The only step I can think of is after the "president is a king" SCOTUS ruling he could have just canceled them and told everyone to fuck off, but using those powers was clearly something that he didn't morally agree with.
He picked the weakest method to start with, added many delays and means testing, then after being told no by Supreme Court just changed to going through the backlog of those who should have already been forgiven and called it him fulfilling his campaign promises.
Then on top of that allowed gop to force them to restart.
Exactly. And ultimately, voters don't want to hear excuses. They don't expect perfection, but they do expect some results. Republicans, even with limited majorities, always manage to achieve at least some of what they would call progress. Democrats OTOH just fine endless excuses. At some point, you're either incompetent or admitting to your voters that you were lying to them - promising them something you would never be able to deliver.
They left a lot of options on the table and then let the clock run out on them.
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I wish Stewart would run for office.
I understand the urge but please stop electing people from TV.
Nah, they're the only ones we have any idea about. Not to mention zelensky has been killing it.
In most cases I agree. Stewart is not a political neophyte though. I mean it's not like he runs a reality show
His humour requires wit, understanding and nuance. His product is much more intelligent and complex than say, a competition show where people compete for a " job" with some thinly veiled gangster.
So basically he's waaaaaaay over qualified to be president.
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I kinda like repeated reaffirmation of a candidate's values, especially if it is very public and consistent.
Ukraine seems to have ended up with a good leader doing that. 😉
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I think if Stewart won the white house and made Colbert his press secretary, and he played the character from the Colbert report and just framed everything Stewart did as the most hardcore American Conservative stance and talked about how Republicans need to get on Stewart's level, they could actually shift the Overton window.
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I am listening to this episode right now. He's spot on. These idiot libs seem to want another loss.
Jon Stewart is not impressed with the Democratic Party’s plan to craft a Project 2029, which he said will just be a “a rehash of all the consultant driven, careful nonsense” that caused them to lose the presidency to Donald Trump.
It's not the party doing this...
It's the neoliberals that were run out of the DNC creating their own club and hoping progressives fall for the bait and fight to be included in a place they have no power and will be ignored.
Don't take the bait. Let them hold their own meaningless meetings about what the least they can do would be.
Stewart was pretty specific about who/what he was complaining about, but articles are missing the details and all of them seem desperate to turn people off from the new and I proved DNC now that neoliberals don't control it.
This is the first I've heard of the neoliberals being driven out of the DNC and frankly I find it a bit hard to believe. Outside of the win in NY I haven't heard of any other significant shakeups in the party, and frankly the number of politicians in the DNC you'd need to oust to dislodge the neoliberals makes me think I'd have heard something.
The DNC is definitively a neoliberal party. Obama was one of the most neoliberal presidents we have ever had, as far as social attitudes go. He massively carried water for the whole “if I made it, anyone can” and “black people suffer from a culture of poverty” type of nonsense, both of which serve an agenda that is against providing social safety nets and actually helping people improve their lives. Neoliberalism is all about blaming individuals for the failures of government as a means to avoid bolstering social services
“Neoliberals have been run out of the DNC” is absolutely nonsense. Neoliberals running the DNC is 99.9% of the problem with the DNC today. Its the reason why true progressive politics fail so often
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From the perspective of current power the Neoliberals are the DNC.
It is only some grassroots movements in the party that try to change that.They are just at the start and the DNC is fiercly fighting them.
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They’re not idiotic, they have to pretend to do something opposing the Republicans while they help them transfer all the wealth to the rich and start imperial wars around the world, otherwise normal people might catch on and do something about it.
This is it exactly. The Democrats are not on your side. They're neoliberals. They believe in the freedom of money. They are a party for rich people. This isn't a battle between left and right. It's a battle between rich and poor.
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That gives "dad are you coming to pick me up from baseball practice" vibes.
This guy got $866,425 from AIPAC in the previous 2 years.
“Their project 2029 is going to be a rehash of all the consultant-driven, careful nonsense that has put them in this place… in a moment when the Republican Congress is passing one of the most devastating bills that we have seen in this country in forever,” he said.
Was project 2025 consultant-driven?
I think Jon was referring to the previous DNC strategies, which were heavily reliant on consultants.
As for P.2025, that was written by the Heritage Foundation, with chapters written by various groups and individuals paid to help craft the document. So, yeah, sorta, but not in the way the DNC does it.
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