NYC's Congestion Pricing Has Caused 'Quality-of-Life Improvement' in Just Six Months : usa

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago

32% year over year decline in traffic fatalities. That is just absolutely huge and frankly rather shocking.

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I admit I was skeptical of this tax and now I do feel it works much better than I expected.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 24 points 5 days ago

That's pretty much the way it goes everywhere congestion pricing is implemented. Resistance right up until implementation, then people immediately see the benefit and love it. The fact is that less cars equaybetter cities

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 5 days ago

Screw you, Trump.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It is almost like good policies, even ones that involve tolls, work. The country needs to censor and defund the White House and move on. I really can't take listening to this ass clown anymore.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Less cars means less money to car maker CEOs.

How about cars on various higher roads like Main st. 25th level????

Car elevators would be a thing!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Now do that to the Van Wyck.

[+] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's a terribly regressive tax but I guess some of them are cool now because reasons.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Taxing the wealthy in their expensive, personal conveyances to fund the MTA that the poor people ride is regressive? Is this one of those situations like with the word literally, where "regressive" now means the opposite?

[+] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So poor people pay an even more disproportionate amount of their income to use a car, for many of whom it is a necessity. The rich get less traffic, the poor just have to take whatever crumbs they can afford.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The $9 congestion toll is nothing compared to the cost of parking in Manhattan. Gothamist, and other media outlets, did the legwork on this: The congestion toll applies to approximately zero poor people; they're not driving into the city. But tens of thousands of lower-income people benefit from improved bus service, subway upgrades, and less danger.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Only problem I see is that if the public transit gets better then fewer people will drive, thus lowering revenue.

I’m gonna take my car to Manhattan just to help pay for busses, $9 at a time.

[+] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm lower middle class and would like to take my family to visit NYC someday. It just got more expensive for us.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This kind of selfish thinking is exactly why the world is always on fire. Sorry you’ll have to pay a little more to go on vacation with your four kids. What a hard life you live.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't have four kids.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You’ve missed the point of my reply but fine, when you said traveling as 6 in another comment, I incorrectly assumed it was you, your partner, and four children.

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly you wouldn't want to drive there as a visitor. Like, you wouldn't be driving from spot to spot, that would be a nightmare.

Hopefully they have decent medium term parking garage on the outskirts, then you could park and then transit/walk/uber/taxi. That would be ideal.

Edit: or I guess just park at your hotel for the entire stay. That would be even easier....

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah we visited Toronto recently and just parked at the hotel the whole time. When you're traveling with 6, a car is cheaper than flying in plus you're not as limited on luggage. New York isn't that far from us and I've been upstate but never to NYC.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By what percent? And, why would even want to take a car into lower Manhattan?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -1 points 4 days ago

I'd want to drive to my hotel or Airbnb and walk everywhere once I got there. We're usually traveling with 6 people.

[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Car-brain hot take

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is it really a hot take if it's such a car brain cliché? Stale af take

[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Sometimes the “/s” is implied

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Cold as day old porridge

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