RFK's proposal to let bird flu spread through poultry : hackernews

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 87 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why even have a health department if their answer to disease is "literally just do nothing about it"

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago

Because they aren't just doing nothing, they are actively interfering.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Many departments in bad governments are named the opposite of what they do: department of defense, the department of public safety, the department of health…

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The worm is definitely in control.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

The worm is trying to take out the birds so the early bird cannot get the worm.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Maybe the worm isn’t and feels as helpless and terrified as the rest of us

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago

The worm died of hunger years ago.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Damn illithids! Ghaik trash!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Welp, looks like Visser 3 is real.

... Time to bust out the old Hork-Bajir morph.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know that if farmers love one thing, it's deliberately losing a ton of money. I'm sure they'll be thrilled with this idea.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Stupid cunts would continue voting R.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As long as the republicans bail them out.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

They don’t though. Family farm ownership is dropping rapidly and farmer suicide rates are sky high.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

258,000,000

But this guy in particular can't be fully human. Swims in sewage contaminated water, eats roadkill, has dead brainworm that's probably controlling his mind. He's also like one layer of skin away from being one of the nightmare things from "They Live."

[–] Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

SUGAR, WATER

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

OBEY

[–] Zier@fedia.io 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Secret plan to force everyone to be vegan by killing all the animals. Checkmate humans!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Don't forget the ticks that make you allergic to meat

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All the animals including humans.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

We can't eat people anymore??? Where will I get my pRoTeIn from??

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Guy heard the term herd immunity and did not think it through.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

not sure if it is grammatically correct to use "thinks" in a sentence relating RFK jr

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

It's grammatically correct, but maybe not semantically correct. Grammar has to do with word ordering and stuff. Semantics has to do with word meaning.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago

That's because to him herd=food. I seriously wouldn't be surprised to find out one day that's he's a cannibal.

[–] Earthling105b@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

7th grade science test question: What would evolve faster, a virus that can create millions of new copies every day, or a chicken.

Apparently RFK jr thinks the chickens will evolve immunity faster than the virus can evolve to jump to humans.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

If the pressure is right, the virus should evolve to be less lethal. If the virus kills its host before infecting a new host, then that evolution is not advantageous. This is why low contact was a good tactic for COVID. Only the strains that were less lethal would continue and out complete the ones that kill people.

Unfortunately I doubt that he would mandate a good management of this. In a environment like barn chickens live in, the virus can transmit so regularly that the lethality is not a pressure for it.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Or doesn't realize that evolutionary pressure tends to kill the shit oudda anything that ain't up to snuff...bye bye poultry industry. Likely doesn't care tho. Seems like a steak every night kinda guy.

Imagine if it were a Prion problem instead. Think he'd be like FEED THE COWS MORE COW! THEY'LL TOUGH IT OUT!

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's less that they evolve and more that we just select the already resistant chickens.

[–] Earthling105b@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it could take several generations of chickens until “resistant” evolves into being immune enough to not lose half the flock every time. And in the mean time since human farmers will have to be tending to the chickens in some way, there always a risk of the virus jumping to humans.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

If the options are

culling
vaccination
breeding resistance

Culling should be the last resort. I get that everything rfk jr touches turns to roadkill, but this is less on the crazy spectrum than some of his other antics.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 points 3 days ago

I feel bad for the chickens. But they probably live in a hellhole anyway, so maybe they at least get to take some humans with them.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

Costco chicken! Now pre chlorinated and triple kiln fried in real hydrochloric acid! Now with 99% less weak flu!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if only you'd voted for Kamala... b-but genocide!

[+] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Still butt hurt eh? Next time get a candidate who is actually supported by the base. Makes it easy to win.

The fact that genocide is a bar you consider a nice to have says more anout you than the people who withheld their vote because she couldnt commit to upholding one specific law we already have in the books. Probably the easiest thing in the world for a president to do.

You fuckers cant even fall back on rhe jew vote excuse anymore after nyc mayor prinary.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Still think the important issue is who's "butthurt" eh? That's why the country is doomed. The problem with finding a liberal candidate supported by the base is that memes can't run for President. Just go back to scrolling on your phone and keep telling yourself none of what MAGA is doing is your fault.

edit: I'm gonna expand a little for people who keep saying Harris was a bad candidate who didn't get the support of "the base". She got 75 million fucking votes, Trump just got 2.3 million more. The "base" voted for her just fine, it was the FRINGE who didn't.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

😂 next time dont put a candidate up who supports a genocide, cant be bothered to support workers, and couldnt even break 5% in a primary and maybe your candidate will win.

The only people you have to blame for this is you morons who chanted vote blue no matter who and harris who ran a dog shit campaign.

Its like you dumbasses dont know the first thing about how reality works and unfortunately we're all suffering because of it

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The way reality works is that you never get everything you want, and you often have to make the least bad choice available. Refusing to vote so you can maintain your own moral purity makes you the dumbass.

[–] LikeableLime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The way reality works is that Dems run bad candidates and lose to Trump, twice.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Saying Harris was a bad candidate or that the Dems ran a bad campaign is objectively bullshit. When election day came she was second only to Obama in her rise in popularity, and doing it in only a few months is objectively amazing. But Trump's win can't be the fault of people who refused to vote for her because they focused on the Israel/Gaza issue and ignored every other fucking issue, can it? Naw, you were just being ethically pure. And how'd that work out for Palestinians? Really swooped in and saved the day there! I'm sure all the people getting deported would also want to thank you for being so ethical. Way to go! So would everybody who's gonna die because they won't be able to pay for their meds. And the ones who are losing their science jobs. And science itself - science is fucking STOKED that you have such pristine morals. Way to go!!!

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think you understand what objectively means. She objectively lost.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Ok, take out "objectively" and read the rest of the comment.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

ROFL. tell me my friend, how is trump working out for you? lol. the lack of self reflection on your end is hilarious.

the lack of ability in recognizing that the least bad choice rationalization is that there are a significant number of people who consider trump to be said choice.

A candidates job is to prove they're said candidate and sadly supporting a genocide, actively suppressing minority groups within your campaign, ignoring/fucking over the working class, etc proves to many people that you're not the least bad choice on a ballot of 5.

next time dont play the 'best option we have' game because other people dont agree with your premise. make sure the option you put forward is the least bad.

welcome to reality. enjoy your trumpettes.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you actually think I like Trump there's no point even trying to talk to you. Sorry if any of these words are too big.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but that is unsurprising most kamala / biden / dnc enablers do have issues in that regard. Probably why you think voting for any candidate who enables a genocide is the right thing to do. 👍Enjoy your continued losses to fascists.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How did refusing to enable genocide work out? Palestine doing okay now? How about the people getting deported from the US and/or thrown into cages? Or the ones who will die because they won't be able to pay for their meds? Or all the other people getting fucked by MAGA. The warm glow of moral purity must be comforting.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Worked out just fine. You little twits are getting your just desserts for the suffering we've inflicted on Palestine. Next time dont push for a genocidal candidate and maybe you wont get fascism. Its pretty simple.

And child, let me tell you if you think people being unwilling to vote for a genocidal candidate is a moral purity test then you need to go see a shrink. Seriously seek help.

As for all the other groups getting fucked by trump, yeah thats what happens when you put up a candidate like Harris who was willing to toss them under the bus as well.

How many times do we need to explain this to you:

Dont put forward a pro genocidal, anti middle class, sub 5% of the primary vote as your candidate. Its pretty simple those are just giant red flags screaming 'i want to lose to fascists'

Everything after that is your own stupidity biting you in the ass. We literally told you idiots in August harris was going to lose and may for biden.

Oh and here is a tip for those worried about getting your meds: moltov cocktails; use them.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lecturing on morality, ending with throw molotov cocktails. Nope.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

😂 yup you're exactly the reason we have fascism. Too much of pussy to realize violence is the only workable response once fascists are in charge. Too much of a holier than thou to get their hands dirty with the real work.

Its okay you'll have more in common with your Palestinians relatives soon enough.

Fun fact moltov cocktails in response to being denied medical treatment is self defense. which is a long standing moral form of violence. Just like Luigi.

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