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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 37 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Why must it be the Nazi who are supporting Israel?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Because it's not about the Jews. It was never about the Jews. It was always about using a scapegoat that's enough of a minority to be bullied, but not enough of a minority that they practically don't exist.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yep, but it's even more than that.

American Christian Zionism is not a pro-Jewish policy. It is about (a) getting rid of the Jews by getting them to all go back to the Holy Land, and more importantly, (b) triggering the "End Times," for which the Jews returning to the Holy Land is a prerequisite. American Christian Zionists do not give a flying fuck about Jews; they're just delusional racist death-cultists who think they're gonna get "Raptured."

[–] Eldritch@piefed.social 15 points 20 hours ago

Because nationalist groups when they aren't pitted against each other have a lot in common. It's why Trump likes Bibi, Xi and Putin.

Wealthy German Zionists, negotiated Haavara with Hitler. Breaking solidarity and boycotts against his regime to emigrate to Palestine. Ostensibly to save German Jews. Though ultimately only those that were Zionist and wealthy got to take much advantage of it.

Post war Zionists manipulated international sympathies to make official claims to Palestine and seize control from the people who had actually lived there generations, displacing them. Much as Hitler had done to them. Initially there were many other places discussed to relocate many Jews after the war. It wasn't always just Palestine. But the nationalists demanded Palestine.

Nationalist are scum and always have been.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

fash support fash

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

What was it? Something about being the "good guy" so long, you become the "bad guy"

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago

Nazis were to found an Israel county on Madagascar.

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The word is “Shylock”, just to save you a click.

I had no idea that was a slur, but it makes sense I guess.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 9 points 13 hours ago

For those unaware of the origin, It's a name of a Jewish moneylender character in The Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have noticed it's kind of common for older people to say this and not know the origins or antisemitic connotations. If someone who was Trump's age but a little bit smarter said this, I would think maybe it was intentional but since he's such an idiot there's a decent chance he really didn't know ot was offensive. As much as I hate Trump and all he stands for, I can believe this one was truly accidental.

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

May well be, however he's calculating and manipulative. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was deliberate.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

This one is just super common with old people not thinking through that it might be offensive though. Pretty much all my older relatives use this one occasionally and none of them would be intentionally anti-semitic. Trump isn't a god of manipulation or anything, he's an idiot who has the wealth and charisma to make everyone think he's not an idiot. By ascribing this intelligence and intention to him, you're kind of falling into right wing propaganda by unknowingly accepting the false premises they are selling to all of us. Trump is an idiot who doesn't think things through when he says them. His advisors do think things through and do have a lot more intelligence and intention to their words and actions, but Trump himself does not.

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

I agree with you he definitely doesn't think things through. I also agree he's using a generational word. I personally think he's got anti social personality disorder and at the very least he's a documented dv abuser, they're manipulative. They can be thick as fuck, but with good manipulation skills

[–] alexc@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know why people are surprised by this.its not his first time and we all know he’s never read a book in his life.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

we all know he’s never read a book in his life.

That's what I came to say, too. Not only does he not read, but he's not smart enough to remember the character nor understand the implications. We know he hasn't read a lick of Shakespeare. So where the fuck else would he know this term from other than antisemitism?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's possible that one of his antisemitic speech writers wrote the line for him.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Possible, but if there's one thing that's been shown about Trump during his life in the media, it's that he has a near encyclopedic knowledge of all the racist slurs. He pulls out some real obscure ones, and that was even before he even ran for office.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

He's a genius and you have a coffee date, mate

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

On the other hand, Trump plead ignorance, and I would never bet against his ignorance.

And, if he did know the slur, I'd be surprised that we haven't heard it until now. As you know, he's not shy about saying them.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Didnt his ex wife say he used to keep a copy of Mein Kampf that he himself said he liked to read because he admitted his speeches. Never read it, so it could be possible the term was learned from that