I definitely would not support any party created by that fuckhead. It will just be another douchebag conservative shitshow.
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Neither would I. But! It would split the conservative vote and also force the Democrats to listen to the voters! If it ended "first past the post" voting, it would be incredibly good for this country and the world...
Or, Democrats do what they do best -- not listen to their voters -- and the new party comes to power by merging the Nationalists that are in Musk's camp with the Socialists that the Democrats always ignore. Maybe they'll even merge those two names together to describe the new party....
I'd like to remain more hopeful in that the first past the post standard collapses and that means we socialists get to do democrats 2.0 in the same way musk wants Republicans 2.0
Cynically that means that the spoiler effect might actually work in our favor if he does go through with it. I'm not gonna hold my breath for it, but it would be so funny if Musk's ego actually leads to the Republican party splitting and losing because they can't decide how many poor people and minorities they want to throw into a wood chipper.
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40% of Americans would support a party founded by the world's richest man whose very first instinct when Trump won was to triumphantly perform two Nazi salutes. WTF, USA?
I'm actually very much in favor of Musk starting a political party that effectively splits the Republican vote and makes Democrat victories that much easier. Go Musk!
It looks like it would split the Democratic vote too. Which suggests a lot of Democratic voters (like pretty much all Republican voters) don't have the first clue what's going on.
That could be a great thing. If Musk launched a party with large enough base support of clueless morons to destabilize both Rep and Dem parties, that would create space for the creation of a liberal/left party, and suddenly we have escaped the crushing gravity of the two-party system.
That said, I doubt Musks party would have even a fraction of the support that is suggested.
If Musk launched a party with large enough base support of clueless morons to destabilize both Rep and Dem parties, that would create space for the creation of a liberal/left party,
Actually, a new party that successfully pulls from both parties would most likely be centrist at best.
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That's context we don't actually have.
It's possible that Democrats are simply clueless as you suggest, but we don't know how many people supported this not because they intend to join Musk's third party, but because they also know that it'll split the GOP vote and make Democrat victories easier.
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Yup! Let them fight.
Have you met trump voters?
They idolized trump because they believed he was wealthy
But musk is actually as wealthy as they believed Trump was.
Nothing else matters to them, wealth = power, and power is a good thing to ally with.
It's all basic psychology, because when you spend literal generations ignoring public education, around 40% of the population never gets past base animalistic thinking.
They're picking the aide they think is most powerful, because millions of years of instincts beat into us by evolution says the powerful will kill the weak. Learning the killing doesn't have to happen is the entire point of socialization, and we just don't teach that to humans anymore.
Learning the killing doesn’t have to happen is the entire point of socialization, and we just don’t teach that to humans anymore.
We don't teach it to Americans any more. Some places still understand what society and social responsibility are. But Americans have been subjected to the propaganda of toxic individualism for too long.
toxic individualism
That's not the root problem. It's the lie told to defend ruthless capitalism:
If you can't make it, you're the problem
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Yes, thats the 'independent voter' cohort the Dems have spent 20+ years making concessions to.
They also grew this cohort by being very largely ineffectual, and allowing education, wealth gap, general quality of life... to all get much worse, such that more people are now more stupid, angry and exhausted.
New party is fine. New Musk party is a hard no. I'm suprised he didn't call it the X party, 420 party, or Gigaparty
X Æ A-Xii party
Or the Life of the Party, the After Party, or the Block Party.
It's the absolute perfect time for Republicans to split...
This is gonna be the first fair Dem primary in decades that will be a fair fight. Musk and Trump having a slap fight while Dems can actually get the most popular candidate into the general?
Let em cook
Ok, call me crazy, but hear me out: this is good and we should encourage it.
One fascist party gets all the fascists aligned. Multiple fascist parties split them up. Suddenly their 51% majority is 25% and 26%. We should be fostering the infighting and splitting of the party. We should welcome its own destruction from within.
I'll only believe it when I see it, but this could theoretically be the beginning of the end for a two party system. If done right we could end up with 4 or 5 legitimate parties (including splitting Democrats up and getting a true labor party)
Never gonna have more than two parties as long as we still use "first past the post" voting.
A new "Republican" party would necessarily have to argue for vote reform in order to make gains. We might be able to spin this into a bipartisan issue. We make it their own self interest to introduce ranked choice voting.
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I agree. But we need more than just Musk. Like 4 or 5. Break the system.
There's 0 way a labor party would take root here with how much of our population falls for moneyed propaganda. Still, more choices is always better when it comes to these political parties.
I am not so sure - i think that many many young folk are both more open to it and are disenchanted with the democrat party - and this will continue to grow with the old guard insisting on shooting themselves in the foot by stubbornly resisting Mamdani in new york immediatelt after 3 "Vote Blue No Matter Who" campaigns for the in the last few presidential elections.
You act as if unions are non-existent and Bernie Sanders has no following.... Unlikely? Sure. But impossible? Nope. Literally half the Dem talk since the election has been about how much Dems feel disenfranchised by their own party. Have you been paying any attention?
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Almost half of voters said they are likely to support a new political party proposed by Tesla CEO Elon Musk, according to fresh polling.
Horseshit. No way is Elon's popularity that high, after he so effectively alienated himself from both US parties. I'm guessing the poll just asked about supporting A third party, not Elon's third party.
Both parties suck and are ruining the country. Here's an idea, let's take the jackass that jumped around with a chainsaw and sawed away people's benefits before giving two Seig Heils at the worse of the two horrible parties, let's go with his new party.
What a joke.
It's not his popularity.
- Republicans dont really like Trump, they just want to "own the libs", so a new "conservative" party appeals to them.
- Democrats won't vote for the new party, but realize that it will destroy the Republican party.
Asking people a theoretical question about whether they would support a third party doesn't give you any useful information. It doesn't mean they'll support whatever you make, nor does it mean you (in this case Musk) have what it takes to build a party from scratch. Including just basic human qualities required, ike patience and perseverance.
This whole story isn't even worth following.
We've had one fascist party, yes. But what about second fascist party?
Elon is a petulant child who knows nothing. That party will only attract people like him, which will be no different than the libertarian / tea party / republicans. This too will fail.
Let him be the Jill Stein of the conservatives.
Or a Ross Perot redux.
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For the love of fuck, billionaires do not have your best interests in mind.
We already have a far-right fascist party and a right wing party. Why add another fascist party?
more reality tv bullshit
musk is a fucking muppet
better than trump, who's also a muppet?
NO. it's muppets fighting muppets, like Team America: World Police, except irl
"57% of male Republicans " says it all.
Ah yes, the entire population of America
57% of male Republican voters. Uhh. Sounds good. Large enough to tear a painful bite out of the GOP, but not enough to matter.
And I hope that by now, Democrats know enough not to vote for him.
Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck Elon Musk's Doge party with stolen info from the US Gov't about taxpayers. He just wants to pull an RFK for the 2028 elections and I guarantee a new exec order will come forth giving Trump some bullshit advantage that plays right off this because it's the plan all along.
Fuck Elon Musk
2028 election haha
Elon has alienated so many people it's not clear he would be able to form a consortium of voters big enough to matter.
To break the two-party system we have in the USA, you'd need to have overwhelming numbers, because both the Democrats and GOP have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo regarding the balance of power.
Split the Democrats at the same time for a proper anti-establishment levelling of the playing field, then start talking in ways that highlight progressive values.
This is stupid
I support your sorry ass getting deported to south sudan. Not from south sudan? IDC.
Muskrat is all talk. The fucker got drumpf elected. I do not care if they've had a falling out. He talks and talks about releasing Epstein info then does nothing.
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