Brazilian "patriots" bow to USA demands, so they're also dumb
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Nationalism is only good when people are fighting colonialism, e.g. palestine or british era India.
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Patriotism: Pride in your country for what it does.
Nationalism: Pride in your country in spite of what it does.
America has done so few things to be proud of and so many things to be ashamed of that it’s impossible for me to feel patriotism.
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um, no... Americocentric again
Nationalism has to do with pride in a shared cultural identity, whereas Patriotism is pride for one's country.
in other countries, there are strong cultural ties that bond people together. shared language. a relationship to the land. hundreds if not thousands of years of history. some countries have dozens of such groups.
nationalism is a person from that group taking pride in that identity. patriotism is taking pride in your country as a whole. so for example, you can be proud to be Gujarati, and you can be proud to be Indian.
now, in the United States, there really isn't a national identity beyond shopping malls and jingoism. so i can see how nationalism is rarely seen positively. all you get of it is nazis and fake irish frat bros.
but, no, really I think patriotism is a far bigger problem than nationalism. one's language is your flesh and blood, it's who you are. what the fuck does a country mean to you? the people who lock you up?
I will add that ethnicity, religious identification or lack thereof, or nationality doesn't exempt anyone. USA and Christianity aren't the first, only, or last to reinvent and suppress the parts of history we don't like, but we're certainly going full throttle, along with some other states and religions.
Patriotism is loving your country and wanting it to prosper. Nationalism is believing your country is superior to other countries and seeing all others as adversaries.
It's the difference between working on self-improvement because you care about yourself vs. wanting to take things from others and being paranoid about them taking from you.
That's a nice idea, and if you can maintain that distinction good for you, but the inevitable widespread consequence of loving one's country more is that one loves other countries less. And that leads to xenophobia, which in turn leads to racism.
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