Trump has never had a "deportation" agenda.
What he's had, from the start, is a "send anyone who opposes me to a concentration camp" agenda.
The "deportation" of immigrants was just a cenvenient base from which to start establishing precedents.
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Constitution allows for slave labor. Everyone in a camp is gonna be working for free.
Yeap, that's how the new iPhones will be built in America.
Trump should be first. He has the tiny fingers for it.
"[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi. “Denaturalization finally does belong to federal district courts – but they are obviously keen on finding every way they can to denaturalize people they think did not deserve to be naturalized.”
But what the administration can do is drag anyone and everyone they want into the courts, where they'll either have to pay for their own attorney or go it alone, jump through hoops, miss work, incur travel expenses, and of course all the fucking stress that goes along with "this is the beginning of my being disappeared to a foreign gulag."
They don't care whether any specific individual is denaturalized. Some percentage will be, for good or bad "reasons." Some will just give up and leave the country. Some will go on the run. Many will succeed in court, retaining their citizenship, as well as a whole lot of paranoia for the rest of their lives.
All of them will suffer from the process. The suffering is the point.
And those who win in court… have no guarantee that the federal administration won’t round them up again in the future and put them through the entire process again.
"[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.
"Wanna bet?"
-- Trump.
If there’s anything that Trump especially excels at, one talent, one skill, he is the absolute master of, it is his fucking hypocrisy. Like any bully, like any fascist, they will use your own rules to beat you down as they, by definition, are in violation of them. When they violate the rules, they are “strong“. When you violate the rules you are “weak“.
It works because they have no shame. And they have no shame because they are psychopaths.
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“[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.“
Because they give a shit about federal courts
Except SCOTUS has just ruled that defendants have to make a legal claim for each and every act enabled by an unconstitutional law. So yeah Trump can do literally anything he likes.
ETHNIC CLEANSING
"Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases."
How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone's immigration status?
Example in Tennessee: "The legislation, criminalizing the act of being in Tennessee without legal immigration status, would come with both jail time and an eviction notice from the state. Judges would be required to issue 72-hour warnings to leave Tennessee to anyone charged or convicted of the crime.
The first offense would be a misdemeanor, but would rise to a felony if someone is charged a second or subsequent time."
That means Tennessees courts should immediately shoot that down as unconstitutional because it is a civil matter according to the federal government.
How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?
Because you have a judge who rubber stamps your twisted legal reasoning. And you've got a liberal opposition that only knows how to shrug at fascism and deflect blame onto college leftists for not voting harder.
Tennessee's red as a baboon's ass. They won't be striking anything down as unconstitutional.
There isn't much opposition in Tennessee, but Memphis and Nashville still exist. So you have Tennessee judges that have blocked their bills to ban drag shows, hemp products, ID's for porn, and laws against transporting women in need of health services. They don't always win long term but they don't just let everything go through without a peep. I'm sure there are others I don't remember, but it is always nice to see when they do block something.
I guess the logic is that this is a civil matter, then the consequences of it are criminal. Still, seems silly.
How could consequences for a civil matter be criminal. Just sounds wonky to me. It would be like saying marriage is a civil matter, but if you get divorced or cheat on them them it's criminal.
Because being here without citizenship could be criminal, so after the civil trial you have to do whatever needs to be done to stay or leave. It's not instantly a criminal act, but the consequences could lead to criminal actions if you don't make the changes required.
Can we revoke trumps citizenship and deporting him? Is that an option? Would be peak irony.
Can we revoke trumps citizenship and deporting him?
Ask Merrick Garland.
Probably far too strident for Milquetoast Merrick.
I’d like to fire him from a canon…into the Sun. Melania could be denaturalized.
The thrice divorced, adulterous, non-bill-paying would surely fall into this category.
Not according to the new set of conservative morals. They think Taco is more Jesus than Jesus (who was a commie liberal anyway) and the very pinnacle of moral character.
If moral character was a real issue, Trump would have lost his citizenship long ago. Together with most politicians in Washington DC.
Department of Justification.
Not a loophole. Ambiguous and subjective criteria are designed to give decision makers cover to ultimately do whatever they want, unbound by the rules. When the system permits, the system is flawed.
who would have thought that citizenship would be subject to fascist Calvinball in the colonies that cage 5 million people
I've always felt america had a distinct lack of a morality police /s
Moral character? Taco should be the first to have this applied to, then.
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