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[–] sevenstars@feddit.uk 101 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

The thought of Trump being the judge on what constitutes good moral character🤣🤣🤣

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 77 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that as of right now, he gets to be. That shouldn't make you laugh. It should scare the shit out of you. He is literally planning on disappearing US citizens, making them stateless, and shipping them off to third world countries. He has already proven that he has people who are more than willing to wear masks and just kidnap people off the street on Trump's orders, and has already shipped people out of the country without due process or even access to the legal system. If you happen to be caught up in it, good luck ever finding someone who speaks English again, let alone being able to contact your family or get legal representation.

This should absolutely scare the fuck out of you.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

As of forever. Until they GOP replace him or he dies.
You're right, y'all should all be "absolutely" scared, and not this, "we'll turn the tables next time.." attitude.
YOU ARE ONLY SIX MONTHS INTO THIS!
There will be no next time. They will not relent. They are on a game plan devised by think tanks and AI. The speed and analysis of AI may be too much.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 20 points 9 hours ago

Trump being the judge on what constitutes good moral character

that's literally what this is...

i wish i could laugh about it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

He's been handed a blank check by liberals who were terrified of the phrase "Defund ICE". They embraced reactionary politics and doubled down on police and military as a remedy for the BLM protests and the COVID economic crisis.

Trump gets to be the judge because Trump quite literally got to appoint all the judges.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 8 hours ago

Any of his administration.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He's the man the voters chose - if they didn't trust his judgement, they could have chosen someone else. His moral character represents American moral character.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

He’s the man the voters chose

...if you buy that.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 9 hours ago

Trump has never had a "deportation" agenda.

What he's had, from the start, is a "send anyone who opposes me to a concentration camp" agenda.

The "deportation" of immigrants was just a cenvenient base from which to start establishing precedents.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 32 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi. “Denaturalization finally does belong to federal district courts – but they are obviously keen on finding every way they can to denaturalize people they think did not deserve to be naturalized.”

But what the administration can do is drag anyone and everyone they want into the courts, where they'll either have to pay for their own attorney or go it alone, jump through hoops, miss work, incur travel expenses, and of course all the fucking stress that goes along with "this is the beginning of my being disappeared to a foreign gulag."

They don't care whether any specific individual is denaturalized. Some percentage will be, for good or bad "reasons." Some will just give up and leave the country. Some will go on the run. Many will succeed in court, retaining their citizenship, as well as a whole lot of paranoia for the rest of their lives.

All of them will suffer from the process. The suffering is the point.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 hours ago

And those who win in court… have no guarantee that the federal administration won’t round them up again in the future and put them through the entire process again.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

"[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.

"Wanna bet?"

-- Trump.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If there’s anything that Trump especially excels at, one talent, one skill, he is the absolute master of, it is his fucking hypocrisy. Like any bully, like any fascist, they will use your own rules to beat you down as they, by definition, are in violation of them. When they violate the rules, they are “strong“. When you violate the rules you are “weak“.

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

It works because they have no shame. And they have no shame because they are psychopaths.

How fascism is specifically designed to break democracy using its own rules: The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 15 points 7 hours ago

“[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.“

Because they give a shit about federal courts

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases."

How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone's immigration status?

Example in Tennessee: "The legislation, criminalizing the act of being in Tennessee without legal immigration status, would come with both jail time and an eviction notice from the state. Judges would be required to issue 72-hour warnings to leave Tennessee to anyone charged or convicted of the crime.

The first offense would be a misdemeanor, but would rise to a felony if someone is charged a second or subsequent time."

That means Tennessees courts should immediately shoot that down as unconstitutional because it is a civil matter according to the federal government.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?

Because you have a judge who rubber stamps your twisted legal reasoning. And you've got a liberal opposition that only knows how to shrug at fascism and deflect blame onto college leftists for not voting harder.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Tennessee's red as a baboon's ass. They won't be striking anything down as unconstitutional.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There isn't much opposition in Tennessee, but Memphis and Nashville still exist. So you have Tennessee judges that have blocked their bills to ban drag shows, hemp products, ID's for porn, and laws against transporting women in need of health services. They don't always win long term but they don't just let everything go through without a peep. I'm sure there are others I don't remember, but it is always nice to see when they do block something.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can we revoke trumps citizenship and deporting him? Is that an option? Would be peak irony.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can we revoke trumps citizenship and deporting him?

Ask Merrick Garland.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Probably far too strident for Milquetoast Merrick.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Department of Justification.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The thrice divorced, adulterous, non-bill-paying would surely fall into this category.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Not according to the new set of conservative morals. They think Taco is more Jesus than Jesus (who was a commie liberal anyway) and the very pinnacle of moral character.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

I've always felt america had a distinct lack of a morality police /s

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 hours ago

who would have thought that citizenship would be subject to fascist Calvinball in the colonies that cage 5 million people

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Not a loophole. Ambiguous and subjective criteria are designed to give decision makers cover to ultimately do whatever they want, unbound by the rules. When the system permits, the system is flawed.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Moral character? Taco should be the first to have this applied to, then.