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https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/30/canadians-react-to-cancelling-digital-services-tax/

Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Already sent an email to my MP, at least it’s something.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Me too - people are pissed. We do not capitulate to fash. Poland and Austria did and Germany still invaded them.

I’m curious to hear Charlie Angus’s response to this capitulation.

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would send an email to my MP but he is a do nothing back bencher who will take credit for Carney’s failures.

[–] unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Mine's a cabinet minister 🤢

Like I'm emailing anyway but it's gonna be swiftly ignored.

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[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I've sent so many emails since all this began. I get no response. Per usual. My MP is indigenous for fuck sakes.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always remember who we voted against. We would need special instruments to measure how quickly Polyestre would have caved.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know. PP is a Trump fluffer to the ultimate. He would have been an unmitigated catastrophe and it troubles me how close that fuckwhit came. And how he continues to try to remain. But unless Carney shows tangible results (which includes NOT capitulation to fash), his term as PM will be one and done.

[–] Trakata@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Our choice was Nazi’s or standard conservatives disguised as liberals who are still just monarchists and kowtow to strongmen fantasies.

Either way we’re bound to regress.

[–] arankays@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't believe Carney was a spineless liberal moron all along! Who knew?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I mean.... On the things to cave on... Caving on a tax paid by CANADIANS is not the worst thing in the world.

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This seems really premature. I dislike Carney's policies for a bunch of reasons, but it's premature to shit on him for this. We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we're diversifying our economy away from the US then that's a win.

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just said why it's a stupid, stupid thing to do: Trump would have caved anyway. All Carney had to do is wait.

That he would cave so quickly shows how little he values Canadian interests over American profits.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

And to that I would just add - people are PISSED. People will literally self-deputize in a second if America rolls in with tanks or drones or whatever (they are already setting the stage for that with their relentless internal and external rhetoric about how “dangerous” Canada is with migrants and terrorists supposedly flooding in to their stupid country from the northern border). This is a very sketchy time. America can 🖕🖕🖕🇨🇦hates you

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

It doesn't matter since Trump can reneg on it at any moment as he did with the previous one

What Carney did here is signal trump that he will chicken out even faster than trump does at any tartrum he throws

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't care what the trade deal looks like, letting the US president dictate Canada's internal tax policy is a bridge too far for me.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would the Conservatives bring this government down, when it's doing everything they want and taking the blame?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

the conservatives are a joke and they wouldn't bring the gov down as you suggest, but the Block and the NDP may and either would get my vote at this point... Carney could not have been more backstabby to the people that gave him the PM seat at this point

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

So does no one here understand the concept of manufactured chaos as a distraction ?

The service tax was put in place ages ago but was never enforced. It’s the same trick with the whole border czar bullshit where Donald needs to feel big about something as a distraction despite its a throw away card and often something that was already agreed upon even without the US.

Carney only kicked it up for Donald’s ego to feel like he made a deal. Why? Cuz Cheeto thrives on drama. Meanwhile Canada stole the wheat export market from right under the nose of trump. As well as a few other things no doubt.

Canada is slowly disempowering US but needs some keys to periodically dangle in Donald’s face while they do it.

Sheinbaum is a pro at this game and has been playing it cleanly for 7 months. Carney’s simply following suit.

[–] Subscript5676@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’m gonna need some citations or sources for that.

AFAIK, the service tax was not “put in place ages ago”. It was put in force in June 2024, literally last year, and the first payments were expected literally yesterday, on June 30th, 2025. It’s retroactive, but still only goes back to 2022, which isn’t “ages ago”. Source

And what’s this wheat market steal you’re talking about?

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I agree with your skepticism on this one.

Especially given what we can see with regards to US tech companies being complicit with a bunch of the authoritarian stuff going on down south, moves to disrupt their monopolies and try and foster a more local industry makes a ton of sense. Many of Carney's decisions lately align with US interests more so than Canada. It's not overly surprising, he's not pro-Canadian companies / people, but pro-business and international trade (at the expense of locals if need be), in a fairly generic neo-liberal way.

Also, bending over right before Canada day is just such a dick thing to do as PM. He should be trying to lead / inspire national pride, not appeasing foreign interests, for at least like 1 week of his term.

Still prolly better than PP would've been though. With PP we would've had Elon here Musking up the place.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Rutte did it too with his daddy comment. Stroke the ego of the big baby and prevent more tantrum from said baby

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Before we applaud the 5d chess move, we are a bishop down, and no obvious plan to gain back prosperity/material. Flattering the narcisist with a sacrifice to win is indistinguishable from continued full submission and gaslighting us into it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yep, I'm slightly upset. Does he actually think something worthwhile is going to come out of the negotiations?

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Y'all are remembering that it's us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It's not going to affect any company's bottom line in the slightest.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It only applies to a few enormous corporations, that mostly generate revenue through ad sales.

Would Canadian companies really all have increased their Facebook ad budgets over this? I kinda doubt it, tbh

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Then why would Trump object to it then?

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because it targets his buddies Zuck and Besos.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Does it target the billionaire tech bros or will Canadians pay it? Which one is it?? If Canadians are gonna pay it - why would Trump care? If it targets billionaire bros - big whoop! It’s so small it doesn’t even register.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

That’s fine, it allows Canadian companies (that pay tax on money earned in Canada) to compete

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Welp big group, none of us are in it. Time to dig some infrastructure.

[–] rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is that person a Canadian? Social media posts aren't really indicative of the general feeling of a given populace. It's dangerous to think otherwise.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

GTFO out of here with your logic and measured takes. This is Lemmy.

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