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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 55 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hoping this sets a precedent for the same kind of regulation about non-Chinese corporations. Otherwise it just comes across as sinophobic grandstanding and not actually about protecting the privacy of the end-user.

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh man, can you imagine that??

Glad none of this ever happened before, right???

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 48 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"Chinese authorities have far-reaching access rights to personal data within the sphere of influence of Chinese companies," she added.

And that's different to American companies how? None of this climate of data harvesting is currently good for us.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 15 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

At least formally, with US companies there are agreements that the data on european citizen need to stay in EU, with China no

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Which gives superficial comfort as it gives scant protection from how aggregate data is used to upend democracy.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's simple: America Good, China Bad.

There isn't much more depth to it than this. BTW even Lemmy is sadly suffering from the same brainrot.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. But "America bad, China good" is also brainrot.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org -2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think China is good. I think China is a strong country doing normal superpower stuff.

The difference is China doesn't start wars and isn't out to overthrow other countries governments.

Their leadership doesn't act like clowns either, they have the seriousness that the western world seems to have lost after everyone collectively decided that voting far-right is "based" for "owning the libs".

So all in all I expected people to hate China less than the US. But online propaganda speaks louder than reason these days.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Well.

Not out to overthrow European governments.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee 35 points 7 hours ago

Sure, as long as you also remove ChatGPT.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

I will say it is fantastic you can run deepseek models locally

Some of the deepseek r1 distills are still the best small models. The 8b ones are good and can run on a lot of devices.

[–] BubblyRomeo@kbin.earth 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Why not just leave it up to the users? Maybe put a warning?

Why does the government have to ban everything and treat us like children?

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because most people reason like children and act like children.

Had one dude buy a bunch of those none refillable vapes. Ran around with 3 of them and talked about that the government should ban them because people like himself throw them in the woods when done. That is a real person.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

often in cases like this there is no real personal responsibility involved, and your disdain stems from a lack of empathy.

nicotine is a strongly addictive chemical and lots of users have active addictions. in many locales and markets disposable vapes are increasingly becoming the cheapest or only way to scratch that itch, in addition to americans being propagandized for years into believing that vaping in general is somehow a healthier way to deal with your nicotine addiction. either way vaping is heavily pushed on nicotine addicts in america to such a point that i genuinely am not so certain personal responsibility factors into the equation anymore. it’s very similar to opium in china during the century of humiliation or the war on drugs or something - just a clearly systemic problem spurred by greedy people against the poor that is justified to other poor people through fallacious moral reasoning.

the guy you mentioned… knows the obvious point that buying disposables is contrarian to his opinion. that doesn’t invalidate his beliefs. he’s an addict, not necessarily a hypocrite. instead of being crabs in a bucket and tearing down the people who already agree with you why don’t you try and point people’s anger rightfully towards big tobacco companies who managed to swindle the world into picking up the nasty habit again in the name of avarice. those people hurt you, me, and the guy in your story. they deserve you being mad at them, not this rando you mention.

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Nope he is a fucking idiot.

Nice rant but this was about him throwing it into the environment while saying the government should ban those vapes so he stops throwing them in the woods.

I understand that you didn't get it with first reading because it is completely nuts so the brain goes to something more reasonable.

But I agree with the gist of what you are saying.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

haha lmfao yeah i’m kind of super busy in the mornings - i did misread you in passing, sorry. appreciate the heads up friend

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Congratulations, this is how you get exploited by corporations.