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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Karen Allen, the perfect example of aging naturally and radiating beauty.

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Petite brunette women with green eyes have always been my thing. I realised recently that is entirely due to Karen Allen.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

She isn't even specifically my type, but her smile in this Indy 4 promo foto

collapsed inline mediaKaren Allen in Indiana Jones 4 promo photo
was just absolutely captivating

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

-Why there are pyramids in Egypt?

-Because Brits couldn't moved them to British Museum.

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine doing a Gate of Ishtar maneuver but with the pyramids

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 4 months ago

It's not quite the same thing (particularly because of the motivation), but, uhh…I suggest you read about Abu Simbel, if you haven't already.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

how to write lists

- Why there are pyramids in Egypt?
- Because Brits couldn’t moved them to British Museum.

renders to

  • Why there are pyramids in Egypt?
  • Because Brits couldn’t moved them to British Museum.

Markdown guide is in the toolbar (?⃝) alongside a button for lists.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well, that's the reason why I didn't write it like that. I wanted it to look like a dash, just like in novels.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So breaking accessibility for the heck of it? How forward-thinking.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is it breaking accessibility?

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good question: for basic accessibility, structure should be conveyed, which adds

when technologies support programmatic relationships, it is strongly encouraged that information and relationships be programmatically determined

The web supports programmatic relationships through correct markup, so the technique using semantic elements to mark up structure applies, specifically by using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links or the markdown equivalent.

If you want to experience this yourself, then put on a blindfold, use a screenreader & compare your "list" to mine.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't look like a list to me, but a riddle.

Would putting a Q: and A: in front of them satisfy you or would that send you off on a different tangent of chastising web users on their formatting?

Maybe instead of people needing to apply exacting rules to accommodate an accessibility tech, the tech should get better at interpreting human tendencies of writing. Even today I can write in a non-structured natural language form and a decent chat bot can typically make a reasonable interpretation of it without help.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It doesn’t look like a list to me

Then the - weren't needed.

Maybe instead of people needing to apply exacting rules to accommodate an accessibility tech

  1. Nah, writing a space the conventional way suffices: - SPACE list item. Even aesthetically, the plain text looks atrocious without a space there & worse when rendered.
  2. The technology is fine, there was even a button in the toolbar. It's not that hard to figure out to anyone trying: there's a preview button & they can edit.

All anyone has to do is (1) follow regular convention or (2) use the technology. Getting this wrong despite the technology & standard convention is less a technology problem & more a user problem.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a screen reader installed so I cannot try it but I can guess how it can screw with it. However I agree with Monkey With A Shell here. It's not realistic for all users to follow semantics, this can only be solved with a better software.

While I use markdown daily, apparently there are still things I don't know about it. Well, I mostly learn them when I need them but still. So, I could use (speech dash) instead of -, which I assume wouldn't cause a problem with a screen reader. There is no way for me to remember its shortcut on the keyboard, but it seems Markdown already covered this with --- which ends up rendered as .

Thanks for making me noticing about it, learned something new today.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not realistic for all users to follow semantics

Not realistic for users to write lists the normal way that doesn't look wrong? I don't know guys

-first

-second

-third

looks obviously bad whereas

- first
- second
- third

looks right. Then you see the rendered result in preview. You also had a button in the toolbar to create a list.

I don't think this is asking much.

If you weren't trying to write a list, though, then I don't know what you were doing & I doubt a chat bot will either: could you link to an example of what you were trying to do? For all you know, I'm a chat bot not figuring out your intent. No technology is about to fix PEBKAC.

I think the bottom line is if you write lists normally, then everything else including accessibility will turn out right without you needing to understand the intricacies.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I definitely wasn't trying to write a list, it was a riddle or a conversation. What I was trying to do is this:

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Though, it seems speech dash is not a thing in English. So I understand the confusion.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You had me pondering…yes, quotation dash: it is a thing in English, just less common!

Please disregard what I wrote before: you had it almost correct, but use em dashes as you suggested before. Some OSes offer nice character pickers for less common punctuation: for example, Windows summons it with WindowsKey-.. Apologies.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By the way, Markdown also takes escape \, which is why sometimes the shrugging emoticon is missing left arm.

- So this
- also works with space

So you don't even necessarily have to leave out the space.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

Apparently there is already a separate symbol for speech dash, which is —. However its keyboard shortcut is obscure and I couldn't remember it later, but Markdown already covered this it seems. Writing --- renders as —, which I'll do from now on, if I don't forget about it next time.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

scandalized stare

edit *innocent stare I meant

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Many ethnic minorities complain that their cultural heritage is exhibitioned in the capital far away. Countries are a social construct

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So a museum in Western Europe or the US is better, or just as bad?

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's worse, obviously. It's not enough to bring it into the country but it's worse to keep it in Western Europe or the US. You could argue that once it's in the capital it won't travel anywhere closer to the people but when it stays in London or Berlin, it's not moving anywhere. On the other hand, once you ship it to the country of origin, you can take the extra mile and bring it to the cultural heirs. But keeping it is the worst option.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago

You're right, and I was being facetious.

You responded well and explained it for all. Thank you.

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[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Gotta love how the first movie opens with him stealing an idol from an uncontacted Peruvian tribe, and the heroic music swells as he narrowly escapes with spears flying around them.

Granted, this takes place in 1936 and his actions were the norm for the period, but despite coming out in 1981 the movie plays this scene out rather uncritically.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

He narrowly escapes with his life after having the idol stolen from him by his rival, Belloq, who works for the Nazis and actually hired that Peruvian tribe to be his little private army. Belloq then orders the Peruvians to attack Jones and he barely escapes on his hired plane.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Temple of Doom had way more questionable scenes in it with the banquet, the heroic British soldiers at the end and... Short Round. Did they really have to name him that?

Although the cultists were based on a real group and I actually saw something that looked like the heart thing in an Indian movie, so maybe that's based on something real as well.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Countries and borders are an arbitrary concept created during the peace treaty of Westphalia.

Those relics belong to dead people.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, it's definitely a little questionable when the people currently inhabiting the land have no direct connection to the people who made the artifacts. And then you got shit like this. Or this. Or this.

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[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Countries and borders are an arbitrary concept created during the peace treaty of Westphalia.

Stealing this foolproof argument for when I next apply for a UK visa to go to British Museum. Thanks!

Attributing modern concepts of borders to Westphalia is a Eurocentric worldview. What, you don't think they had the concept of statehood and sovereignty in Asia for at least a few thousand years prior to this?

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[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Forgot the zoom on the bottom panels.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

What's the opinion on certain high risk countries where there's a high likelihood of the artifacts simply being destroyed? If I remember correctly ISIS and other similar organizations have burned or bombed several historical sites before.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Museums should participate in cultural exchange, if a museum feels under threat then they have channels they can trust to protect their artifacts until they can be returned

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We have to be extremely wary of people who cite that because it's so easily used as a justification for artifact theft and can have deep roots in racism.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the question. Where is the line between racism and artifact protection?

[–] lath@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Presumably somewhere between racism and artifact protection.

[–] vorb0te@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Adults have the right to make their own mistakes?

[–] lath@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

At the expense of everyone else?

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 0 points 4 months ago

If you're suggesting a daring heist at the Smithsonian, I'm in!

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The only opinion that should matter is that of the people the artifacts belong to.

“It’s safer with us” is an excuse that’s been abused by colonizers and raiders for too long.

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Well I'm British so... fuuuck that!

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Britannia Jones and the stolen museum artifacts.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Marion, this is a movie made in the 1980s and set in the 1930s, what the hell are you even talking about?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I liked you better when you were a child I was grooming!"

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

Marion, you knew when you met me that I came from the mind of George Lucas. It's not my fault I'm a little fucked up!

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[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

better a museum than on a shelf in someone's living room (no I won't be donating it)

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