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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/27088837

Nearly 100 orgs plead for homegrown lifeline amid geopolitical tensions

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can you include Canada in this as well? We also want to ditch the dependence on American tech.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Canada strongly needs this, and to expand our own cloud data centres.

It is going to be very difficult for businesses to move off US tech when everything is running on AWS and GC.

I would support us integrating with the EU for this. France and Germany’s programs are already having great looking open source tools getting released. I would love to be a part of that too.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 14 points 5 hours ago

EU IT sector 💪

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It also suggests there should be a formal requirement for the public sector to "buy European" and source their IT requirements from European-led and assembled solutions, while recognizing that these may involve complex supply chains with foreign components.

You know that opensource could solve that for software, right? Then there's no "supply chain" issue. It could be written by the North Koreans for all we care, but it can be copied, audited, or whatever else by European developers.

There are only 37k signature for Public Money, Public Code. We can do better and hopefully convince the @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu to listen.

[–] will_a113@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Most of the govt fees are going to be for service and support, not licensing, so even with FOSS software they would need to find European vendors willing and able to provide everything from tech support to hotfixes to planned upgrades.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Why would you need a vendor? You could support it in house, couldn't you?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

you could, but governments tend to be particularly inefficient because they’re very risk-averse. everything they do has to be documented, every decision justified

it’s so risk-averse that it’s a massive risk in fact ;)

outsourcing allows them to say “but it wasn’t us!”

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

bUt MuH aUsTeRiTyDieser Kommentar wird Ihnen präsentiert von der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[–] will_a113@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Governments are not big monolithic things, at federal, state and local levels there can be hundreds or thousands of users/endpoints to support. Nobody does that in house, even Fortune 500 companies outsource service and support (that’s how companies like RedHat, Xen, etc got so big when they were still making FOSS software). From another angle it’s about risk reduction, since if something comes up you have a vendor to blame.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 minutes ago

Why is this an open letter rather than an EU petition? They should make a petition here, then it'd have more visibility, it'd be legally required for a response to be laid out if it passes the threshold, and people like me would happily sign it knowing exactly who has my personal info.

https://commission.europa.eu/get-involved/engage-eu-policymaking/petition-eu_en