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Russia wants to end the war in Ukraine "as soon as possible," preferably through peaceful means, and is ready to continue negotiations — provided that Kyiv and its Western allies are willing to engage, Vladimir Putin said.

Speaking during a roundtable with top editors of major international news agencies late on June 18, Putin added that he is ready to meet with Volodymyr Zelensky and "Russia does not care who represents Ukraine in negotiations, but insists that any final agreement must bear the signature of legitimate authorities."

The Kremlin has long sought to portray Zelensky as "illegitimate" in an attempt to discredit Kyiv. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Feb. 18 that Putin, who has ruled Russia for over 20 years, is ready for talks with Zelensky, but "legal aspects related to his legitimacy" must be considered.

Ukraine's allies had generally ignored this propaganda narrative until Donald Trump appeared to echo the Kremlin's lines claiming that Zelensky was a "modestly successful comedian" turned "dictator" who "refused to have elections."

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 68 points 1 week ago

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Feb. 18 that Putin, who has ruled Russia for over 20 years, is ready for talks with Zelensky, but “legal aspects related to his legitimacy” must be considered.

I agree. 20 years is way too long; something is fishy.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My Russian is rusty, but here’s a rough translation: “We invaded Ukraine and have had our asses kicked thoroughly and dramatically, but we would still like to win and take a bunch of their territory.”

I might have missed a conjugation or two.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 1 week ago

but we would still like to win and take a bunch of their territory

Putin had to. If the war ends with nothing to show for it, it's his turn to poison himself out of a window.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin is betting heavily that Trump will help. However, Trump is probably too stupid and undisciplined to stick to the playbook.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There do seem to be some cracks there but he’s still been an incredible purchase for Putin.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Russia does not care who represents Ukraine in negotiations, but insists that any final agreement must bear the signature of legitimate authorities."

No doubt Zelensky is the legitimate leader of Ukraine, but who does he imagine should sign for Russia?

But honestly Putin can piss off with his constant ridiculous preconditions. Although of course that's up to Ukraine to decide.
But I don't blame them if they just send him this response: 🖕

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The best response to anything they say or offer is the middle finger. If they want peace, they should get the fuck out of our lands and not come to us from their swamp in the future, but we are well aware that they do not want peace, they want to take as much Ukrainian land as possible, or even the whole of Ukraine.

By the way, he doesn't care? Damn nonsense, after we kicked Yanukovych out of our country (or rather, he fled like the beaten, whiney bitch that he is, Putin's bitch), Putin and the rest of Russia started saying in unison that Poroshenko (and later Zelensky) were “not legitimate” presidents, although they are of course quite legitimate, because it is up to the Ukrainian people to choose, not Russia.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

provided that Kyiv and its Western allies are willing to engage

Read: provided they agree to our demands

And even if: Russia has already broken international treaties. Why should it be different this time?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because Russia is decisively losing now and is unable to take new territory and hold it.

https://m.youtube.com/@suchomimus9921

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Putin can immediately end it with just one word: retreat.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"I'll stop (for now) if you just let me win."

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you remember that episode of The Simpsons where Homer has his arm stuck in a drink vending machine and it becomes clear that he would have been free if only he'd let go of the soda can inside it? And everyone laughs at him?

Here we see "Homer" Putin with his army stuck in a war holding onto a Ukraine. He even has the same haircut. D'oh!

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That's a bang on analogy.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Feels kinda like a game of crusader kings iii where you've gained some territory but worry that your opponent's allies might send a large army at any time, plus your vassals are rumbling about revolt, so you want to get that war finished asap but don't have enough of an advantage to force them to accept your terms.

Except it's OK when it's crusader kings because that's just a fucking video game and people aren't really dying on both sides for your ego or power hungry imperial bullshit.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

War never changes.

[–] card797@champserver.net 13 points 1 week ago
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russia could simply stop attacking at any time, yes? Or at least they could have, not sure if Ukraine would back off at this point given how long this has dragged on.

Oh, but that isn't what they actually want.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Russia withdraw out of Ukraine, and stop attacking, the war will end immediately. Russia have always had the option of stopping the war, they just choose not to.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stopping is no longer an option unless Putin wants to crash the Russian economy.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 points 1 week ago

It is still an option. No more deaths, no more wasting resources building stuff that gets destroyed again. Russia can have peace anytime they want.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Art of the deal strikes again, Fuck off puts. They should demand Putin be exiled to China or some shit. Assad has to stay there or be handed over to ICC

[–] Hoohoo@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Has anyone considered Putin might simply be a compulsive liar, but for some strange reason it's not recognised in Russia?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

So all Zelenskyy has to do is surrender to the aggressor. Nice and simple.

Or maybe, instead, the Ukrainians should not only keep dismantling Russian military assets, but also their fossil-fuel refineries and pipelines.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goddammit is frustrating seeing these so-called 'world leaders' acting like fucking toddlers.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

All our leaders are complete turds.... I don't know what that says about our systems or the idiotic people living in them... But here we are

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

He doesn't want to end the war, he wants to stop advancing and keep what he's already taken. That's gonna a big fucking NO from Ukraine.

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Putin need to be pushed outa window.

Make sure there's a sharp stick in the room

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ukraine has so many more drone bombs be a shame to waste them let's do a few more months of attacks first