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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] bent@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

You need to make it fun and engaging for them. That is what the far right is doining. You and I might find it reprehensible, but they het som much traction bu having fun and giving young men a purpose and the feeling that they are doing something to netter themselves and their commuity.

How you go about that I dont know. In my local area we are focusing on having fun partiets and going out together as a group instead of just being political nerds in our own little grottos. Som far it seems to be working.

Tl;dr: Have fun visibly and invite them to join you. It takes forever, but at least you have fun while doing it.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Young adults needs stronger world frameworks that don't feel forced on them.

IMO that's a virtue system!

I've been a Stoic for over 20 years now and managed to convert dozens of people to progressive thought just by discussing virtues that are inherit to human nature (justice, courage, wisdom, temperance). People like abstract virtues because they're easy to incorporate to their personal world models with very little friction and friction is the real thought killer.

Most people are truth seeking but can be very slow learners and some really rebel against strong friction so there's a need for more abstract approaches like - using "colorblind" instead of arguing race, using "cosmopolitan" when argueing geopolitics, using "secular" when arguing religion etc etc. Every other argument can follow afterwards.

This is the way.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm so sorry, genuinely, what? Could you further explain what you mean? I understand your first sentence, and then I got lost

Edit, maybe people aren't online so much, but so many times I ask for clarification, and It gets ignored.

It's important to me to understand different lines of thought, especially from men. I wish you'd respond.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

One thing that would probably help a lot is more progressive rolemodels who actually go out proselyzetizing, i.e. a more direct progressive equivalent to the likes of Andrew Tate. Though IDK how to actually make that kind of thing big, the fascist tech bros who rule silicon valley will surely suppress it even if it was gaining some momentum.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't that Hasan guy do this?

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe stop labeling them the “enemy” with posts like these?

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