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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

At this point they are wasting their money. US, China, and Russia each have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth. Having enough to destroy 1.1 earths is dumb.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but this way you get to make sure your intended target actually gets hit instead of assuming the following nuclear wastwland would destroy your target like everything else.

It's like the Martyrdom perk in fps games. You die and drop a grenade or c4 pack or something and explode, hopefully taking out the person who killed you.

It's just a dead-man switch to get the AD part of MAD.

Effective? Maybe.

Incredibly stupid? Yes.

Is that stopping the US and Russia from doing it? Lolno we invented this dumb shit.

The world is run by insane people who would rather see the planet scorched into a lifeless rock than admit their way of doing things might be wrong.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I remember playing Modern Warfare on my 360 over LIVE and that perk was so satisfying...

... And then I switched to "Hardcore mode" with friendly fire and forgot I left it on. The boys were not happy when we were holding a position and I got dropped. Tink tink...oops.

Point is, this feels kinda like that: Humanity is supposed to be on the same side and friendly fire is enabled. Nobody should be picking Martyrdom. =/

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 2 hours ago

That's literally what it feels like: being stuck in an objective (the planet) and you have a teammate that's SUPER gung ho about the fact he's got a bomb vest (nukes) on that will go off if he dies, and you're just praying he doesn't catch a stray round (attack) while shooting at people from the doorway (doing proxy war things or just straight up committing/supporting genocide/ethnic cleansing/war of extermination/etc) or lose connection (leadership going insane).

If any of those things happen, you know you're all toast. And it's all mostly outside of your control.

I hate to use video games as a metaphor for literal nuclear war and sorry for spelling it out like I'm talking to a child but I felt it was needed for clarity.

We're all on the planet together, and no one will ever be able to force everyone into submission, the more we fight the shorter time we have as a species.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

It's about having enough that your enemy can't target them and blow them up in a surprise attack.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 13 points 5 hours ago

Seeing how the madmans attack iran. You can expect everything from them like attacking china too

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't expect them to do otherwise now that we all understand it's a bunch of sociopaths running the world. Unfortunately they are run by sociopaths too.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

Now? Did you sleep through history class?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Of course they are.

The only thing that holds back the US military machine is the threat of mutually-assured destruction.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

100%. I'm Canadian and I'd really like to have some nukes right now.

[–] dinren@discuss.online -4 points 3 hours ago

Have a bomb, be a target. Stay nice, Canada.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly that is a great idea. As evidenced by recent events.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

What events? It's clear that being a nuclear state is great for preventing invasion. If you have a submarine fleet with nukes you won't be invaded.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

So like modern tanks have nuclear, radiological, biological and chemical protections. Does that mean that they are rated to survive a nuclear detonation at a certain radius?

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

No. It's for radiation so you don't breathe in the radioactive dust afterwards.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Nope. It just means you will die slower if you are on the other side of the planet dying for Elon Musk's right to pollute space.

[–] dinren@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

That’s what they tell the tankie operators