his chances of raising money and looking like a leader
Note that raising money is the first thing mentioned.
And note that winning elections isn't mentioned at all.
Which neatly sums up what's wrong with the DNC.
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Democrats' David Hogg problem not over despite DNC's vote to remove him
(www.washingtonexaminer.com)
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“I’ll be very honest with you, for the first time in my 100 days on this job … the other night I said to myself for the first time, I don’t know if I wanna do this anymore,” he said in a May 15 Zoom meeting of DNC officers.
“No one knows who the hell I am, right? I’m trying to get my sea legs underneath of me and actually develop any amount of credibility so I can go out there and raise the money and do the job I need to to put ourselves in a position to win,” Martin said, addressing Hogg. “And again, I don’t think you intended this, but you essentially destroyed any chance I have to show the leadership that I need to. So it’s really frustrating.”
It really is frustrating that he thinks the only way to position to win is cash in the bank and no question of the effectiveness of members of the party. Especially when we have such a limited number of positions we can fill.
I think he just liked having an easy answer to why it's not going well in the existence of David Hogg.
me me me me me me me me me me
Is all I could read
I'll take the downvotes to point out the political reality:
Raising money is literally the DNC's primary role. It is a coalition of people raising money collaboratively, with the understanding that agreeing to the party policy as a group is a requirement for being a member of the group.
So when he says that Hogg is stealing his spotlight and making it difficult to build the network he needs to raise funds, he's not out of line.
He is INCREDIBLY shortsighted in failing to connect "supporting good candidates" with "ability to secure votes" which itself is a necessary component of long term fundraising. But let's call a spade a spade: raising money is what the DNC is all about, by definition, and without those funds they have no purpose, let alone ability to promote candidates
I don't think we really disagree given what you said about shortsightedness, but I feel like ranting.
The focus on corporate lobbyist and billionaire donations is the cancer that will kill the country. Fundraising through grassroots outreach and organization can be much more effective than spending billions in blood money on TV ads and landline phonecalls, but it requires a platform that taps into the zeitgeist and galvanizes the public to act. In our current moment that means earnestly fighting for social programs, civil rights, and democratic governance - all of which conflicts with the interests of the ruling class.
The DNC is too far gone at this point. They've ignored the popular will for so long and embraced corporatism so nakedly that they enabled fascism by granting its veneer of populism more luster.
They squandered any good will they could have gained from wholeheartedly supporting popular policies and any trust they could have engendered with a consistently progressive track record. They lost any respect they could have earned from fighting tooth and nail against oppression, and any momentum they could have raised within the institution from fostering a new generation of energetic idealists. Take all that away and what you're left with is a staid orthodoxy that is begrudged, distrusted, spineless, and out of touch.
The only thing they have to fall back on at this point is 'not being as bad as overt fascists' and 'being reasonably complement stewards of an economy designed to funnel money to the wealthy'. We've seen that this is not a good strategy for winning elections, but does a hell of a job at driving voter apathy, powerlessness, and resentment.
/rant
With David Hogg with the DNC, I was considering donating, but I won't now.
Hogg gets it. The Democratic party needs to defund the spineless weenies like Schumer, and focus on young, strong candidates that are willing to stand up to the traitors.
Wherever Hogg lands, that's where I'll be deploying my money.
Its what the modern DNC does. Historically they did a lot more, like developing the party platform, getting out the vote, campaign support, party leadership, candidate development and support (exactly what Hogg was doing), conventions. But besides that one convention, all they do anymore is fundraising. And its all Ken Martin will do too. Ever hear about the democratic party platform anymore? No, because it doesnt exist anymore.
The only messages I got as a registered Dem in NY was requests for money. It was the only way to defeat Trump according to whatever intern was setting up the mass text.
Fucking pathetic.
The way you achieve more is typically showing up at your local Democratic Club meetings or county party meetings.
I registered WFP and while they also ask for money persistently they also advocate action which is nice.
We truly are in the era of Showbiz Politics.
When a government can no longer serve you it will turn to spectacle to keep you from noticing
The irony that they've made money on his trauma for years
Hogg, who has levied harsh criticism over elderly incumbent Democrats’ refusals to step down from their offices,
The concept that a Democrat in office who refuse to step down, is almost never challenged because nobody want to fund it, is undemocratic and counterproductive.
David Hogg is absolutely on the right side here. USA is a deeply flawed democracy, and it starts already within the parties, and it should be pretty self evident that it needs reform.
It's crazy the DNC goes against him because of "tradition" when he is so clearly right. They had 2 major presidential losses to GOP because of similar stupidity.
If the "Democrats" aren't even democratic, what hope is there for democracy in USA?
It's wild that they view their age and incumbency issues as unrelated to their performance in the past decade.
As, apparently, doing and saying nothing to upset status quo is the standard of the current party and has been said so by new Chair Ken Martin.
It literally means no push for better candidates that better represent the people for one thing and doesn't even begin to get into the number of DNC party members who have died in office in the past years of age related issues.
Democrats have become the party of "young 74 cancer notwithstanding" that gets second cancer four months later
Tradition is inherently conservative, not progression. Just saying.
Very true.
So close to actually changing and they throw it away because old fuckers can't stand not being narcissistic assholes.
I worked in politics in DC for several years and I can say with no uncertainty that the DNC and Center for American Progress could disappear and no typical voter would care. Just useless institutions that don’t even do their useless jobs well. Neera Tanden is head of CAP again and is going to be fucking useless again.
It's like what happened with Bernie, but even dumber.
Just 3, not bad for the dems. ALthough to be fair its only early June.
Already tied for total of last year. And all younger than Mitch McConnell.