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Both Trump and his "border czar," Tom Homan, have said California officials could face arrest if they're perceived as impeding ICE operations.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back against threats of arrest by Trump administration officials, remaining defiant as he oversees clashes between law enforcement agents and protesters in response to immigration raids across Los Angeles while also managing an ongoing power struggle with the federal government.

In an interview for MSNBC with NBC News’ Jacob Soboroff, Newsom called Homan's bluff, urging him to "just get it over with" and move ahead with the arrest.

“He’s a tough guy. Why doesn’t he do that? He knows where to find me,” Newsom said. “That kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go."

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How exactly is Newsome impeding ICE?

They're talking about arresting teachers for protecting their kids. They are not talking about Newsome cuz he's sueing the government. But yeah, go and make this issue about your ego and presidential run bud.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago

He’s not impeding anything, but Republicans love manufacturing an alternate reality that justifies their violent thugishness.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 65 points 1 day ago (18 children)

One guy who's actively defying this orange turd and all the fucking tankies on here would rather shit on Gavin because he's not the perfect online liberal like they are.

You people are the fucking problem right now.

The American left is engaged in a slow and unconscious suicide. Meanwhile, conservatives are fucking evil as fuck.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He's thrown vulnerable people under the bus and has no principles other than what he thinks will help his career. Yeah, he's doing the right thing here, but let's not pretend he's good because he's doing the bare minimum

We can work with him while recognizing he's not a true ally

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (15 children)

When someone is cooking a good meal, even if they are generally bad at cooking, shut up and let them cook.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Fucking this.

Furthermore, when people won't even cook at all (online leftists who do fucking nothing but complain), they have no space to complain when someone is doing any cooking.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Trump’s "border czar," Tom Homan, warned Saturday that immigration operations and the presence of federal personnel would continue in the city despite criticism from Democratic leaders who've warned it could further escalate protests. He threatened arrest for anyone who obstructs the immigration enforcement effort, including Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass — though he acknowledged that neither yet had "crossed the line."

Cross the line, Gavin. Cross the line and we’ll believe it’s not an idle threat. Until then you’ll always be Patrick Bateman to me.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The illegal deportations were the fucking line that was crossed. Put those fuckers on the defensive and don't let them abuse language like this.

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson kept California safe during the peak uncertain times of COVID.

Gavin Newson survived a recall that was initiated by the trump blowhards in Orange County and the Central Valley.

We do NOT NEED 2,000 national guards deployed to L.A. Trump WANTS to make things escalate, and 2,000 troops WILL make things escalate.

Your dipshit dictator is siccing military troops on citizens. This is war against citizens.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He did some great things during the peak but, since, he's frequently been nothing but a corpo ghoul. Sabotaging efforts to break up convicted killer and "power company"^*^ PG&E. Supporting rate increases so that the board of convicted killer and "power company", PG&E didn't have to face any actual penalties for killing people. Adamantly opposing any wealth tax. Putting significant support behind RTO/quiet layoffs.

EDIT: Forgot my own footnote.

^*^ "power company" here used in quotes because they seem more practiced in getting away with murdering people though negligence and avoiding consequences for knowingly contaminating water supplies with carcinogens.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was a supporter for a while, but the more I get to know him, the less I like him. He's just another Corporatist Republican-Lite Democrat, and those are the losers that got HitlerPig elected in the first place. If he becomes President, HitlerPig, or someone worse, will be back in office in 2032.

I want the next Democratic president to be an aggressive, no apology, hard core reformer, who isn't afraid to stand up to Sociopathic Oligarchs and Traitors.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, shit. There's a lot to not like about Newsom, but I can think of 100 democrat politicians that would have folded like wet Kleenex by now. He could be a lot more aggressive about this, but he's clearly trying to exhaust all the normal channels. Critical support for Gavin.

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[–] WhiteRabbit@lemmy.today 41 points 2 days ago

Get em Gavin

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

"That kind of bloviating is exhausting."

Bloviate - talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.

Instantly added to my lexicon. There's another word I've often used when I should have been using this one, because the other word (malapropism) isn't exactly what I am meaning a lot of the time but it was the closest thing to what I was trying to convey (someone talking out of their ass in a way that tries to sound intelligent when it isn't).

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep a message chain to myself for new words - here's my most recent:

architectonics, antimonies, deracinated, vituperative, idempotent, moither, uxorious, voussoir, integumented, exuviated, entelechy.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't think for a second Newsom is a hero just because he opposes Trump. He's a very corrupt individual.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Last time we fought fascism we allied with lots of adversaries to take down the larger threat. I'm down for doing that again.

I'll take a Trotsky over a Stalin any day. Besides, this is Hollywood shit. The gov of California is a relatively blanched position. It's a showpony job by design. Newsom has power here because everyone that has power in Sacramento and in the county system supports him. Everybody fucking despises Trump except the neonazis at this point.

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

not nearly as bad but yeah, hea basicslly republicans from a decade ago cosplaying as a democrat, appeals to the california republicans, or like not appeals, calms them down enough or whatever

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What is it about important blue states, like California and New York, that keep voting for corrupt pieces of shit(Eric Adams)‽ Again and again¿ Like I'm an out and loud proud social democrat in probably the reddest state, but it gets exhausting trying to juxtapose that with trying to tell people how corrupt every single repuglican is.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly, short of some miracle undoing this whole mess, this was a flavor of outcome I was quietly hoping for. At some point, politicians are going to realize - much like the president's base - that they're going to lose power unless they mount some kind of opposition. For the very worst ones out there, power is kind of their whole bag. Take it away and they get very angry; they may even do something about it. It's kind of the tacit driving force behind any "checks and balances" scheme: power-hungry bastards trying to out-power-hungry-bastard each other. In a gross way, we kind of depend on it.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

he's got a law degree, and passed bar, he's aware of what an enormous investment opportunity that level of civil rights violation would entail.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If I am a betting person, and if Trump doesn't arrest him sooner, I would bet that Newsom will run for president near 2028, and that is when Trump will have him arrested.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Newsome will definitely run for president, and HitlerPig knows it, that's why he's going after him now.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just more TACO comments from wanna be bullies. These people would lose their teeth in a street fight. Then act like they are Rocky Balboa on state media Fox News. The reality is that they are pussies. Punch a bully and he never bothers you again.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

He's not perfect but Newsom's one of the few political figures resistance to the Trump regime can crystallize around. Yes I'm well aware he's the type of guy who'd like to find common ground with these assholes but he's at least willing to risk provoking Trump's goons into overextending themselves.

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