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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 32 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If Cali doesn't step up, federal agencies will keep targeting them

[–] silence7@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately local cops are in favor of killing citizens.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Cops work for cities, counties, and the state...

Politicians can give them orders, and if the bosses don't follow, they can be replaced.

Just because neoliberals act like they can't do anything about cops, doesn't mean they can't.

[–] silence7@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The sheriff is his own elected official, and you can't run for the position unless you're a cop.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So cut funding...

But the issue is the LAPD, not the LASD.

Stop acting like norma have to be followed by one side, you don't fight fascism with one arm tied behind your back

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn’t LAPD have jurisdiction inside the city?

[–] silence7@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah, but a bunch of today's events were in the county, not the city, and the county sheriff are the ones that are most willing to hurt people.

Edit: Gov Newsom is deploying the CHP. Hopefully they have orders to keep the other cops from going on a murder rampage

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

They can also not go home at night, too.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 5 hours ago

Do you want another Rodney King? Because that’s how you get another Rodney King.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

Hardware stores contain myriad tools of the revolution.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's important to remember that the regime does not and will not have a superweapon it can use without severe consequences.

It's also important to remember that the agencies showing up to harm and intimidate vulnerable and disenfranchised populations are cowards and generally unintelligent.

Protests are good. It gives them something to get angry about. The angrier they get, the dumber they act. They want violence. They want retaliation. The longer they don't suffer casualties, the sooner they start making mistakes that cause them to weaken themselves.

Be an obstruction. Ruin their equipment. Broadcast their names and faces. Shame them.

If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance they expect. It must be unexpected resistance. It must make them question their actions. It must wake them up to the problem they have caused.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I appreciate your point, but I would also point out that these fascists call graffiti 'violence' and even 'terrorism' (see the AG response to vandalism at Tesla dealerships).

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

They can call it whatever they want. They call protesting rioting and violence.

I'm not talking about graffiti. I'm talking about making vehicles meant to carry victims to detention facilities inoperable.

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Agree. Property destruction in self defense in not violence.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago

If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance they expect.

Then what else? Because in such a situation you only have fight or flight.

[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Americans: we have guns to be sure that... democracy... liberty... constitution... bla-bla-bla.
Americans at the same time: what can we do? They have sticks and tear gas. And scary masks!

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Except as soon as one person pops off, every cop with the state-funded military gear will indiscriminately return fire because they really really want to use all of their bullets at once then go home and beat their spouses on paid leave.

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is California, the state with the strictest gun laws in the country on the books. You're asking civilians with compliant arms to go up against literal military surplus equipment (provided through the 1033 program)?

Also, nice bot username. Let's see if you reply to any of the comments.

[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago

Who said that police will dare to return fire? It is easy when you're against one negro or a band of drunken bikers in the worst case. But fighting against people? Being in the minority? Nah...

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

These people are going in with armored vehicles, SWAT gear, and military equipment. A single vigilante isn't going to do shit other than get murdered and probably get everybody around them shot as well. We have to be smart about this. We have to be organized.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Don't place a car airbag under a manhole cover, it's very dangerous.