Aaaaaand...this is why you don't outsource this kind of shit to private interests. At any point, they can just pick up their ball and go home. Now all the money they invested in SpaceX just gets flushed down the drain. The government winds up with nothing to show for it.
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The federal government can just national security/eminent domain take that shit.
Now that would be HILARIOUS
I've said this a long ago and kept getting downvoted... I'm all for kicking Elon by making fun of the CyberTruck and calling everything be touches shit, but Tesla and SpaceX have some of the smartest engineers in the world and they made a lot of good technology that would be too sad to throw away because a Nazi capitalist owned the companies.
Normalize the idea of nationalizing Tesla and SpaceX, we can actually get there.
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Illegal aliens can't own stuff like this anyway. Once he's in South Africa super safe
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The American space program has literally always run this way. NASA decides mission and requirements, private industry sells them rockets they usually then modify and perform their own checks and maintainence on.
The problem is that that system is predicated on having a functioning aerospace industry with multiple competitors you can go to instead of just one company with a viable product thanks the ravages of neoliberalism.
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Which is strange because in my world where the govt pays for my work they own all my work as I make it.
It’s “weird” how the big boys get different rules
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Gonna need a megathread for this fallout. They are at each other.
-Calls for Impeachment
-Decommissioning contracts
-Naming in Epstein files
-ICE rounding up musk
That last point would be beautiful
You forgot Musk leaking all the snooped data he's collected from all the White House staff traversing his Starlink dish on the White House roof. Anyone know what the over/under for number of christian conservative senior White House officials found actively using Grindr?
Why grope an aide when you can Grindr?
Because Grindr requires consent.
He didn't threaten this one though. The other four were actual posts by the two idiots
Say goodbye to human spaceflight for an entire generation. We made a huge mistake hitching everything onto this fucker's stuff.
I've been waiting for us to leave LEO since I was a kid in the 80s and it now looks like I might be dying without ever having witnessed even a moon landing. I envy my parents.
Unless China or India or Russia pull something off. They're all we have after this.
Can't the admin simply seize SpaceX, if it is that important to "national security"? If elon complains, deport him and nationalize his stuff on the grounds that he got his citizenship under illegal pretenses (illegal immigrant).
They certainly could. I don’t think it’s a terrible idea either - Elon is not stable enough to handle the decision making for national security tech.
I mean, the current national security advisor doesn't seem stable enough to handle the decision making either. It's unsurprising that E-Mu fit in fine with this administration until recently.
I find that less likely than an investor and board of directors revolt at SpaceX.
SpaceX is a private company. Musk has total control over it.
They have many private investors.
I think you mean for the west. China has its own rockets and space station and I imagine they aren't stopping just cause SpaceX decided to shoot itself in the foot.
China.
China is already testing a starship clone.
We've seen it works. It can be reengineered. Not that they'd be allowed to just ignore their contract like that. They'd forcefully remove the company from him before that happened.
China is killing it honestly. My money is actually on them for next boots on the moon.
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Need Musk to start talking about how he rigged the voting machines…
He would never put himself in additional danger to help anybody.
Could just blame Trump. Say he was threatened with helping him or his contracts and family would be killed. I would 100% believe it. Wouldn't even need receipts.
Don't put anything past this admin.
Right, but then they might actually kill him. I don't see where the confusion is about him not putting his neck on the line.
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Can't retire if you never worked.
The dragon capsule worked though? You may be thinking of starliner, which is Boeing.
I'm thinking of Starship.
So Elon's cancelling the thing that works, but not the giant firecracker?
presumably well thought out business decisions arent made spontaneously out of rage from a twitter fight.
While on ketamine.
It's the "You can't fire me! I quit!" response to Trump threatening his NASA contracts.
Seems more like the cutting off his nose to spite his face.
To be fair, that will teach his dumb stupid face a lesson it deserves.
Seems more like the cutting off his nose to spite outer space.
Indeed. And Shotwell will likely remind Elon they can’t do that and stay solvent. It wouldn’t be the first time she’s uncancelled something he’s decided to throw out.
I wouldn't be surprised if starlink was enough to keep them solvent
The thing that works is currently being used by NASA to get astronauts to and from the ISS. The threat was aimed at messing up NASA's current plans after Donald threatened to toss the SpaceX contracts.
There no contract for starship yet. They may have gotten a grant for future development or something. But it's only a potential tool for the Artemis missions in the future
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It's bed time in the UK, can someone keep me updated with the shitshow whilst I sleep?
I'm glad there's places like Lemmy and even some news sources that compile the fallout together to save me digging through all of the content for its main points. I was thinking earlier today at work that I sure hope that helpful Lemmy users will compile and summarize the big ones for me.
I just hope they both come out of this knowing that nobody gives a shit about either one of them
Weird how he imagines Drump gives a fuck about space.
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