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Don't be too hard on them, they're new.
Might as well just write it's north of south
We don't talk about what's South of Antarctica
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We're not allowed to know /s
Narrowed it down to a single planet.
What a shame. A wreck on another planet would have been way more interesting
most probably between southamerica and antartica.
See that actually does narrow it down
If "north of Antarctica" isn't enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it's also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it's easy to find it!
Are kids today so Vine-brained they don't understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.
For further clarification:
The Antarctic Peninsula(the long bit sticking out) is the furtest part away from the south pole in the antarctic and is thus the northernmost part, and is generally considered to be the "north" when using cardinal directions there. The Weddell Sea is off the coast of the peninsula.
And is part of the southern ocean, to make it real clear
The entire Weddell Sea is just north of Antarctica. That's where the Weddell Sea is. The problem is that everything near Antarctica is just north of Antarctica, including things on the complete opposite side of the entire continent. It's just a way of saying near Antarctica that sounds like you're giving more information than you really are.
We all probably understood that's what they meant but it's funny and not super clear. "The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica." or "The Weddell Sea near Antarctica." work much better.
Headline syntax sucks.
If you leave Antarctica, you're heading north. Is it North of Antarctica toward Australia, South Africa, Patagonia or some other northerly direction from Antarctica?
That's the ambiguity inherent to the headline.
Was Ernest okay?
A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
Eventually, yes! To find out how, read his book. It's honestly one of the best books I've ever read.
Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.
3000 meters is pretty fucking deep.
a fun fact about this, by the way
the reason we scavenge steel from old shipwrecks is because all modern peoduced steel is contaminated with a miniscule - but still present - amount of radioactive isotopes, incompatible with some incredibly precise scientific instruments and other nieche, but essential applications, that not only require old steel, but old steel that wasn't exposed to all the radioactive fallout during the nuclear tests in the cold war, hence why the sunken ships.
adding a personal note here, if some nuclear tests around the world contaminated everything THIS MUCH, what will we say about microplastics in a couple decades? just food for thought
Near the British Empire then.
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not 'north of Antarctica'.
It is, 'the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.'
Giving 'the Weddell Sea' as the location is actually decently specific, and the 'north of Antarctica' that follows is modifying / adding to the description of 'the Weddell Sea'... not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is 'not really, no', because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
I assume they mean "just north of Antarctica". But really it could be any body of water on the planet it could fit in.
"Just north of Antarctica" is still not helpful at all though. Even a hemisphere would narrow it down more.
Just north of Antarctica in the southern hemisphere.
Listen here you little shit.
lol what else did they mean by hemisphere? is there an eastern and a western hemisphere?
Yes! Divided by the prime meridian and the antimeridian. That's a good question, though.
That feels wrong though. First of all the prime meridian is completely arbitrary (as opposed to the equator), and in some parts of the world like Japan and New Zealand the "western" hemisphere would actually be closest towards the east.
It is arbitrary! England declared themselves the center of the world, and everyone else went with it.
It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.
But where is the Weddell sea?
Just north of Antarctica
The location is being kept secret to prevent looting.
The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.
Hey it's just south of Orkney. Small world.
It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.
Yeah... probably "between Antarctica and the South Atlantic" would be the best reference here.
[Now it's probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]
Yeah even "near Antarctica" narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.
if we suppose "just" means near in this context, "Just north of antarctica" and "Near antarctica" has exactly the same meaning.