"Now the war has reached us we suddenly care about it"
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2025
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Reminds me of wildfires.
Australia was gripped by some of the worst wildfires in history, and it was said that, while wildfires are inevitable, climate change contributed to the scale of them.
Saw loads of Americans call it alarmism, abd not an issue because it was just Australia.
Then the next year America was gripped by some of the worst wildfires in history. Suddenly those same people were wondering if it could be that climate change thing.
I don't know what sources you're referring to but I live in a place in the US that has been choked out by wildfire smoke multiple times a summer for the last several years and no one really talks about it. It's not acknowledged as a new phenomenon or related to climate change at all. At most you hear a "smoky out today huh?"
Yup. Midwest here and people have been bitching about smoke for 4-5 years now. But not a single word on why this wild new, yearly experience is happening.
Oh totally.
I’m on the us west coast and the national news (think USA today, cnn, fau, etc.) is all “there is smoky weather over there or smthn, anyway here is a monkey dancing” each summer (local news is covering the smoke obviously)
BUT as soon as it started drifting eastward and reached Nyc/DC then the news lit up with it about climate change/hazardous conditions.
Funny how that happens
For what it’s worth, this yank donated cash to Aussie fire relief back then. I have a bitchin death metal shirt with koalas and kangaroos on it where the profits went to the fire relief too. Love that shirt.
and now we collaborate quite nicely! we share fire fighting helicopters and fire fighters often fly over to help each other, since our seasons are offset
hopefully that remains and isn’t just seen as “giving things away” and used as a bargaining chip in a perverse game of number go up
And I thought the American right was bad about “it doesn’t matter until it affects us”
Famously, but the truth is it’s a human trait.
Ah the old "It's fine for us to attack another sovereign nation but now it's happening here and I don't like it" style NIMBY
Irkutsk is possibly farther than you are from Ukraine, and Moscow doesn't give a fuck about Irkutsk.
Unlike Russia, Ukrainian military targets aren't schools and shopping centres.
It was a fiery hell
No it fucking wasnt, they just destroyed some planes and you watched them burn from a few kilometers away. Victim complex ass people.
Destroying substantial strategic military capacity in a country with explicitly anti-LGBTQ+ laws is an unexpected way of starting Pride Month.
Pride, brought to you by Raytheon
Thems’ my throwin’ bagels.
Gay, brought to you by Lockheed Martin (in bomb form, google it)
Gaytheon?
Deeds, not words.
Everything you've said is true, but keep in mind that Ukraine isn't exactly an LGBT paradise. Hate crime against gay people isn't recognised by law, and for the past years most pride parades ended up with people hospitalised as a consequence of far right attackers.
Hate crime against gay people isn’t recognised by law
...it's not recognised in e.g. Germany either? Crime is recognised by law which plenty of states consider plenty. Punching people outside of self-defence is wrong doesn't really matter to many jurisdictions why you're doing it.
Protections against workplace etc. discrimination were introduced in 2014, gay marriage is on society's agenda but as so often the first reading was controversial and now there's a war and the constitution can't be changed, anyway.
You could say the same thing about people getting hospitalised at prides about Poland. Ukraine is a post-soviet state so the starting point was "not great, not terrible" (that is, it wasn't literally illegal to be gay but no social acceptance whatsoever), and is moving in the right direction. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Do note that the likes of right sector don't have wider societal backing. Politically, they're very much fringe.
You could say the same thing about people getting hospitalised at prides about Poland
Yes, Poland is a reactionary hellhole too. Being compared to Poland in gay policy is fucking dire.
is moving in the right direction
I hope you're right
Unexpected but certainly not unwelcome 😄
War becomes a much more pressing issue when it's in your backyard.
They're "apolitical" only when bombs don't rain on their towns. Hypocrites.
The bombs did not rain on their towns. Only military targets.
Only privileged people can afford to pretend that "apolitical" is something that exists.
It’s against the law to be political in Russia.
Fuck the Muscovites and Kerch Bridge should be destroyed too.
About time too.
Ehhh - report back when you and your neighbors are under artillery fire.
Daddy Vladdy said the Special Military Operation™ to rescue the russian-speakers would be over in two weeks. 🥺
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