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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 219 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They need to add a backdoor

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 month ago (2 children)

that is my first thought as well.

"Shoot we didn't take into consideration that GROK will need to be able to see these somehow, so now we need to redo it"

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Bold of you to assume they weren't already able to do it

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

I mean fair, but when Encrypted DM went live, Twitter was just starting to get into the AI field, and it was amidst a very uncertain state at that time, so I wouldn't be surprised if they haden't even thought of it.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I just assumed it was elon trying decrypt old messages to make trump people happy so they go after individuals

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

People need to stop going on Twitter....

a? as in one?

every agency gets their own key.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

Oh man I may have to stop using this fascist propaganda service now.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I doubt this is news to most folks on the Fediverse, but don’t trust Twitter, Facebook, or any company whose business model is advertising to secure your private conversations.

Even if they aren’t up to no good today, it is only a matter of time until they come for your messages.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As it happens, you shouldn’t trust Lemmy DMs either, as they’re not encrypted and can be read by instance administrators. So don’t use them to say anything that you wouldn’t be okay making public.

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

this should be the default stance when using any built in encryption. always separate the mode of encryption from the mode of transmission.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone told me they are public some months ago? Like if someone wanted to look up your lemmy DMs they could.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

There was an exploit in version 0.17.0 through 0.19.0 (fixed in 0.19.1) that, from what I understand, allowed people to view DMs of anyone by reporting them, but as you can't know the ID of a given DM you're not part of, they couldn't really target a specific user, but rather would just send reports to a range of potential IDs and see what comes back.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve been hearing a lot of straight up adverts about WhatsApp recently, which I found interesting.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I saw a WhatsApp ad on Prime. And it was focused on the encryption aspect. "WhatsApp can't even read your messages" or whatever. Was weird.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I’m hearing a lot of that on the radio.

[–] iconic_admin@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So… they’re definitely adding some spying capabilities.

100%. If it was purely a migration, it wouldn't need to have downtime. There's ways to replay events and eventually catch a system up (eventual consistency models).

This feels more like they're adding backdoor into their encryption algorithms for government agencies.

Given who musk is, and what he's done the last year and who he's hanging out with in this admin, that's a near sure thing.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago

"We are excited to announce the new encrypted messaging feature that is going to be released soon™"

[–] cron@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"With the latest update, you are now unable to read any encrypted PMs before may 2025. Sorry for the inconvenience."

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

More like, "for your convenience, we have decrypted all of your encrypted PMs before May 2025 and included them in this plaintext document"

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're being rerouted to a more "secure" storage facility. I believe it's Kaspersky's.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 month ago

Is not Kaspersky part of the US government embargo on Russian companies?

[–] starkzarn@infosec.pub 16 points 1 month ago

They misspelled "backdoors."

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

elon is the dumbest "genius" ever 🤦‍♂️

[–] Alistaire@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

he's just rich but likes to pretend smart

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I think there was a once a time in which he did some smart stuff (although he gets a ton a credit for stuff his employies do), but since he starting taking all those drugs he became actually insane and stupid

like theres actually no benefit of any sort to do a fucking Nazi salute

[–] HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do people really use DMs there?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

For spamming ads and scams to people? Absolutely.

[–] ne0phyte@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would not trust any company/website to properly encrypt any important messages in the first place so I don't care whether they add a backdoor (and I've never had a Twitter account anyway).

..but it sounds like a really shitty development/release process to me. Why would you disable something while whatever is to come in its place is not ready yet?

Why not do the development first and then migrate when it's actually ready lol

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

There may be several reasons for this. If I had to guess, they found a critical flaw and had to shut it down for security reasons.

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Just use PGP everywhere, it doesn't matter where you chat then.