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A U.S. federal court on Wednesday blocked President Donald Trump's "Liberation Day" tariffs from going into effect, ruling that the president overstepped his authority by imposing across-the-board duties on imports from nations that sell more to the United States than they buy.

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol. I wonder how quickly the Trump administration will get this before the Supreme Court.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump is gonna explode tonight.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The three judge panel included Reagan, Obama, and Trump appointees. It was a unanimous ruling. Ketchup will be all over the walls of Mar-a-Lago.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A Reagan appointee? Jesus fucking Christ, these people need to retire.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

If he's got 3 more years in him, I won't mind.

But not now. They can die when the next democratic (and hopefully progressive democrat) president is sworn in. Until then, they need to stay the fuck alive.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

That sundowner 2am tweet FULL OF CAPS is gonna be TREMENDOUS.

[–] kwedd@feddit.nl 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Trump administration minutes later filed a notice of appeal.

As soon as humanly possible, I guess.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Ordinarily, an order from this court would be appealed to the appellate court for the federal circuit, but I'm sure the administration will attempt to leapfrog this and try to immediately appeal to the Supreme Court. Since you only need one justice to grant cert, they'll probably accept it. The real question is whether they'll roll over for Trump. I can see Barrett and Roberts joining the liberal wing in upholding the court's order striking down the tariffs, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Hot take: but this is going to suck. The tariffs were guaranteed to tank the economy and would be someone that no one who supported trump could staunchly defend. Now we're going to get a decade of fascists saying "but the tariffs we wanted were never actually instituted so we'll never know how good they would have been. That's why I want to do this worse thing."

Like, I understand that the liberation day tariffs were about to send the US into depression mode and I still kind of think them being blocked is a net good just cause of how bad we would have been fucked.

But God damn it's going to be exhausting.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 37 points 2 days ago

They would just move onto something else anyway, trump supporters will deflect until their death.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Republicans wrecked the world economy in 2008, destroying half the wealth in the world, and were only out of power for 2 years. No matter how bad it is, there is nothing that can pierce the reality distortion field generated by the right wing propaganda machine.

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[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That has been my position all along. I think the best thing long term is if shit gets real bad really quickly. The slower the decent the longer the suffering will be overall, and the less people are likely to notice and remember.

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It could have been super bad and we'd have still forgotten by next election.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh, with USAID gone and SNAP being gutted, a lot of the farmers are going to go bankrupt. With the Medicaid cuts, a lot of the rural hospitals (the main employers in rural areas) are going to go bankrupt. And if the "big beautiful bill" doesn't pass, all social security and medicare payments will stop until something passes. A lot of bad things will happen to the "wrong rural people".

Also, Trump has another law he can use to make tariffs with, and it will be another 6 months before the court rules on that.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

That’s called accelerationism.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

If they get their way, and we have a depression, they'll blame the Democrats. If they get stopped before it goes that far, they'll blame the Democrats. If the Dems are going to get blamed either way, let's do it our way instead of theirs.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Gonna love seeing Alito and Thomas try to argue that in this one very specific and limited case it's perfectly fine for Congress to abdicate its Constitutionally appropriated powers to the executive branch.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

I'm sure some precedent was set during a mutiny trial in the Roanoke colony or something...

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He doesn't give a shit about the tariffs its just market manipulation for him and his buddies

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It’s a bit from column A and a smidge from column B.

The tariffs and planned economic uncertainty contribute to the destabilization of the US and its relationships whilst trump and the greed team ransack it on the way down.

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[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

As a Portlander, I'm really happy that some of the people that we elected here in Portland and Oregon lead this legal fight to stop Trump's dumb fucking bullshit trade way by fiat.

In some ways we are saving the economy from Trump, and thus saving Trump from facing the ramifications of his own stupid fucking decisions, but on the other hand, it's nice that something is being done to challenge his authority.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

White House spokesperson Kush Desai said that trade deficits amount to a national emergency “that has decimated American communities, left our workers behind, and weakened our defense industrial base — facts that the court did not dispute.”

Well the new budget torpedoed this argument doesn't it.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

US should also refund everyone that got hit

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is going to be a huge part of it in the coming days. How the fuck do you sort that out? People have already been hit. Inventory is already here and has been taxed. Who gets paid back? Who is going to buy the tariffed goods knowing the next shipment will be cheaper?

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Friends of mine in the board game industry have already laid off all their employees during the 145% tariffs.

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[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've been wondering why they are letting him arbitrarily impose those god damn tarrifs!

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

First, we must define “they”: the republican traitor filth in congress. Need I say more?

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's crazy how we let one man tank the entire economy.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 1 day ago

We'll see if it sticks. The big, fat, orange turd is so greasy that morning ever fucking sticks to him.

[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what does this mean exactly? Like whats gonna happen. Kind of annoying that tariffs are in limbo.

I thought a tenant of a healthy economy was some base modicum of economic stability. With this news its like what the heck? Is this “tariffs go away over night” or “tariffs are now in place sort of, creatinf economic limbo until the Supreme Court eventually makes a decisions and then maybe someone somewhere enforces the decision “ sort of thing

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not in limbo per se, as the court issued a summary judgment to plaintiffs and struck the tariffs down. There are no tariffs now. They were illegal. To get them reinstated, Trump has to appeal, the court has to grant review (which only takes one justice, so review will almost certainly be granted), and then has to reverse the ruling. While the tariffs could be reinstated, I think it's more likely than not that they won't.

However, your point about economic stability is well taken. I'll add to your point that the tariffs have already greatly harmed the U.S. by turning much of the world against us. They've forced other countries to look for alternative suppliers, and it is unlikely that they will come back, tariffs or not. They have also triggered boycotts of U.S. products.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The best part? All the price hikes announced to date will remain, even if any tariffs paid to date are refunded to every corporation.

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

This is an intentional effect.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago

Trump seems have decided that he can rule by decree regardless of the laws passed by Congress or the limits of the Constitution. Most of what he is doing is probably illegal and the courts should consider it in how they approach good will to the government.

Chaining this idiotic monkey to his desk so he can't fling poo all over the constitution.

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