boot_id seems to be static, probably set at boot.
So don't use it for a random uuid.
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it's fine as long as you reboot before each call
Oops you’re correct. Editing OP.
That’s what you get when you define a file system as “a system that names things”.
Yeah but please don't actually use this. Use a proper UUID library that works cross-platform and lets you choose the UUID type and can be seeded etc.
Can you explain?
Use for what?
Also it is being seeded, according to the file urandom_min_reseed_secs which is also writeable. Here are the other files:
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:13 boot_id
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:19 entropy_avail
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:19 poolsize
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:19 urandom_min_reseed_secs
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:19 uuid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 25. 5. 11:19 write_wakeup_threshold
edit: the type is always DCE/random
There are a few reasons you shouldn't use this in proper programs. If you're the sort of person that thinks hacky Bash scripts are acceptable then sure, use it there.
- It isn't cross-platform. Not available on Mac/Windows.
- There are several types of UUID with different properties. This doesn't let you choose which one to use.
- To make programs deterministic (really useful for testing!) you want to be able to seed all their randomness with a specific seed so that it generates the same UUID each time you run it. (Obviously in normal use you would use a random seed.)
This is awesome. Thank you
Interesting,
non-scientific speed test:
kernel 6.1.0-37-amd64:
$ time for i in $(seq 1 100000); do cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid > /dev/null; done
real 3m53,388s
user 1m37,366s
sys 2m13,847s
$ for i in $(seq 1 100000); do cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid ; done | wc -l
100000
vs. uuid 1.6.2-1.5+b11:
$ time for i in $(seq 1 100000); do uuid -v4 > /dev/null; done
real 4m44,854s
user 1m37,867s
sys 3m4,414s
$ for i in $(seq 1 100000); do uuid -v4 ; done | wc -l
100000
EDIT: I'm blind (wrong result).
Works in Termux on Android
Thank you so much for sharing this!
My guy you've just given me the same sense of wonder you got yourself. Fuck man I love linux
When writing shell scripts that run in a loop I always look for files in /sys or /proc before using standard utilities. There's a lot
- /proc/mounts instead of the mount command
- /sys/class/..../backlight to influence screen brightness
- /sys/class/net to get info and stats about interfaces
- ....
Someone should make a comprehensive list I guess.
See also: /dev/null
It’s basically a black hole where you can throw anything.
cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid > /dev/null
while :; do cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid > /dev/null; done
edit: on all cores for maximum "efficiency"
The information will be evenly distributed upon its surface and some believe one day it will be be radiated back out into the rest of the system.
That's a horrifying concept. Better not think about it.
That reminds me of the CPU stress test I ran many years ago.
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null
If you have 8 cores, just open 8 terminals, and run that code in each of them.
/dev/urandom should stress the CPU more. /dev/random can be entropy limited
for i in {1..n} # where n == number of cores
do
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null &
done
# to stop:
jobs -p | xargs kill
Oh yeah. This looks like a much better way to do it. My solution is pretty bare bones by comparison.
the advantage of yours is that you can actually see the performance number afterwards.
Can you guarantee that each process will run on its own core?
Absolutely not, quite the opposite actually. However, the end result is close to 100% CPU load, which is good enough for some purposes. Let’s say you want to test the performance of your CPU cooler, or overclock stability, this should good enough. There are also dedicated tools for people with more advanced needs.