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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I am so sick of the word conservative. It's not conservative, it's fucking regressive. It's back sliding our society into a world that never really existed in the first place.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s not conservative, it’s fucking regressive.

I mean, Liberals aren't particularly liberal and far too many of the Progressives are barely progressive. Libertarians don't seem that interested in liberty. Centrists can't find the center. Plutocrats are immolating their capital. The Meritocrats are unqualified. The Technocrats are incompetent. Only the Fascists seem intent on delivering results consistent with their brand.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't disagree. The world liberal is wasted on the Democratic party. They're not liberal. They're just the only valid opposition to the Nazis. Even if their policies are conservative.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

They’re just the only valid opposition to the Nazis.

I think you're asking "opposition" to do more heavy lifting than it can bear in that sentence.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I say this all the time and somehow people just can't see it. Who cares what they call themselves. Its what they do and what they want that describes them.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Conservative" just means "extreme far-right" now.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 96 points 1 month ago (51 children)

Lemmy is pretty damn close to that there's only like five conservatives but they are all the same person.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And we still don't ever get along, hahahaha

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nobody hates those who oppose conservatism like other people who oppose conservatism. 🙄

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's more than that, progressive spaces are bound to have conflict due to the fact that progressiveness is way more abstract than conservativism. Conservativism is about not having change, about things staying as they are, no progress. Progresivism however, you can be moderately progressive, very progressive, radically progressive... You also can be progressive in some aspects but not so much in others, yet you identify as a progressive.

Conservativism champions homogeneity, progressiveness champions diversity. In a diverse environment there are bound to be disagreements.

It is what it is, we just need to be better and reach agreements. All the time.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Y'all have just made an enemy for life

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, if it wasn't for the news in lemmy, I'd assume the world was all sunshine and roses, and everybody was cool like me.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We're all happy depressed furries optimizing our linux experience on our thinkpads.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I feel left out. I don't have a Thinkpad. 😩

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

We can share mine

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yah but there's also like, 300,000 tankies and they're ALSO that same person.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago

... can... can we go there?

[–] Salamand@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago

It's funny cuz people actually think this way, and don't realize what a self-own it is.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone added that to the PragerU post? Because I can't imagine PragerU posting a Utopian image with that text. PragerU are worse than Fox "Newz".

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago

PragerU posted the text, someone added the image.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Love how even in this future people still park on the fuckin sidewalks.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm fine with conservative media in theory, but the problem with conservative media these days is just the constant blatant lying.

I think there's definitely room for conservative voices, like:

  • Conserving the environment.
  • Putting checks and balances on AI and technology in general
  • Maintaining non-harmful cultural traditions (Morris Dancing is cringe, but it should still be around)
  • Promoting an emphasis on local community and family rather than individualism fuelling the capitalist system

Even traditions that have been harmful can be recontextualised and maintained and used as a means of teaching, rather than thrown out entirely in the name of progress. People are so drawn to places like Japan (at least partially) because they maintain their traditions and seek to conserve what they have rather than constantly push forward and bulldoze everything old because it's old. Obviously not everyone believes in the traditions, but they keep them anyway.

Nowadays though? Conservatives have basically tossed all of that in favor of allowing capital to completely bulldoze over traditions and then blaming the ensuing misery on the gays.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How could you ban political speech without some kind of Act under the guise of keeping Kids Safe Online?

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Imagine a world where news was balanced and progressives had equal media representation.

[–] Astrophage@lemy.lol 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have we tried putting them on a boat and sending on to find the next continent? If we did that, I might start celebrating Columbus day!

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[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

looks like cool discussion downwind but why should we even argue about what is "conservative"

you're interested in conserving resources? you got some canned food in your cubbard? you tried to teach your kid whatever bullshit you thought was important from your folks? BOOM you're a Filthy Conservative.

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