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[–] loomy@lemy.lol 148 points 1 week ago (4 children)

False ; Norwegians don't look at Americans.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 34 points 1 week ago

Fair enough.

[–] match@pawb.social 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The Americans are going to walk up on the street and randomly engage them in conversation

[–] smee@poeng.link 29 points 1 week ago

Norwegians when americans just come up and say "How are you?" and they don't really want to know in detail how we are but just want to be polite:

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[–] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So I'm functionally invisible if I go there? Tempting

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you either successfully do crimes because you're invisible, or you successfully get put in a Norwegian prison. I'm gonna go check plane ticket prices.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

There is 100% a strong culture for minding your own business and not bothering anyone here. By that I mean that approaching someone without having a good reason to do so is very much frowned upon. That doesn't mean we're anti-social or complete strangers to small-talk, but there are some rather subtle social cues governing when it's appropriate to approach someone, and if you just mind your own business and don't give any indication that you want to chat, there's a high probability that no one will approach you or talk to you.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago
[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was about to make a joke about flying over to Norway and causing issues, but I don't want to be a jerk.

Could someone in Norway frame me and have me extradited, please?

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 114 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately you're not the first person to have that thought. And from what little bit of research I did into it it seems that they would much rather just spend the money to buy you a plane ticket and send you home.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago

Makes sense. I wouldn't want me around either.

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[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Based on a quick search you could go for one of the stricter non-felony crimes and try to get a short stay. But I'm guessing you would have more sucess asking for asylum based on the border issues in the US these days.

Although there were references to a court statement from a few decades ago, about a not extraditing someone to a US prison because it might be a human rights violation. Which could potentially be brought up again these days with the current situation.

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[–] regdog@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But american prisons generate more profit for the private sector. So who can really say which system is better?

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The one with the least amount of repeat offenders.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Why would a for-profit business not want repeat customers?

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Being in prison sucks though. No matter what. I mean Norwegian prisons are very clean and remarkably comfortable, and Japanese prisons have top notch food (freshly cooked and with fresh ingredients). But I would rather not have the choking lack of freedom in any of them.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure there's a starving person in poverty that would disagree. Terrible thought but desperation is common in the working class.

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

stories of people robbing a bank for $1 to get into prison for medical care comes to mind

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

For many people, being imprisoned in one of these places would grant them a lot more freedom than they currently have.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (26 children)

The shame of the Norwegian criminal justice system is not in how they treat their prisoners but in who they haven't gotten around to imprisoning. White Wing nationalism absolutely tearing that country to shreds.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 1 week ago

Mainly because Norwegians are pretty tall

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A gilded cage is still a cage. I’d rather work and pay rent and live in a modest apartment than be imprisoned in a luxury hotel that I’m not allowed to leave. Prisoners in Halden prison don’t get to set their own schedule, don’t get to quit being a prisoner and move across the country, don’t get to code with whom they live and associate.

Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave. Or even just a bus ticket across the country to live somewhere else.

Or how about taking your girlfriend/boyfriend out on a date to a nice restaurant? Or rent a cabin in the woods for a weekend and just relax? Or go out to the bar for a few beers with a friend? Or volunteer to spend time with some elderly folks at a nursing home!

Being in prison sucks, no matter how much they dress it up. The vast majority of things you might do are closed off to you just because you can’t leave. Every single one of those prisoners knows they’re being punished. Every single one of them counts the days until their release.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave.

If you make minimum wage in the city I live in you either live with your parents, have multiple roomates, or live on the street.

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[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A good example is to see what Varg Vikernes were doing while in prison:

Burzum remained as a solo project until 1994, when Vikernes was arrested for the murder of Euronymous and the burnings of several churches in Norway. [...] While imprisoned, Vikernes managed to record two other albums in a dark ambient style. They were released as Dauði Baldrs (1997) and Hliðskjálf (1999). Both of these albums were created with a synthesizer, as Vikernes was prohibited from using any other instruments in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzum#Imprisonment_(1993%E2%80%932009)

[–] smee@poeng.link 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The mass murdering child killer Breivik sued the government because he was only offered a Playstation 2, not the Playstation 3. And did not enjoy the pets he was allowed. 🤷

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If it has decent internet service, just let me know who I have to kill!

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Follow Saint Luigi's guidance, my son

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The Norwegian prisons have higher standard of living than all the red run welfare Oblasts.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sure, but only because it's summer. This time the winter they have to be carrying a flashlight wearing their winter parka.

Still, I thirst greatly for their political system, ecological ideals, in general treatment of humanity.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they have to be carrying a flashlight wearing their winter parka

It's definitely not all wine and roses. I've heard their rations have been slashed to a single blowjob and massage per day. Really lackadaisical ones, too.

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[–] laserm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, I doubt all prisoners are locked in these prisons. I think these prisons like Halden are rewards to which the best behaving prispners get transported to. Still, the criminal justice system in these countries is awesome.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not so much a reward. It's just the natural outcome when your intent is to stop crime, and not to be cruel with punishments. In most countries it is still culturally taboo, but treating people well is the first step to stopping them from committing crimes. Mental health attention is only possible when you work with person who is being treated with basic human dignity. Antisocial personalities of course are an exception who commit crimes and trespass social norms out of different reasons than common criminal but they aren't actually that frequent or common. Crime is a complex multifactor issue. More often than not it is a mix of unmet needs, opportunity and the belief that they can get away with it. If you fulfill the needs of the person in a socially acceptable and healthy way then reduce the open opportunities for crime, you can stop crime before it happens. Punishment and its harshness, on the other hand, have absolutely no impact on crime rates.

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[–] smee@poeng.link 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, Bastøy is is considered the prison reward for the best behaving prisoners.

During their free time, inmates have access to horseback riding, fishing, tennis, and cross-country skiing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bast%C3%B8y_Prison

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