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[–] ShakingMyCane@lemmy.ca 105 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!

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[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 97 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 84 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn't in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.

Here's a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn't seem to find any sources in English.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 4 hours ago

Naval Group, a French naval defense company

Ah shit, that's the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.

Weird that they specify "conventionally powered" in the Canadian article since this is a nuclear powered sub.

[–] boke@sh.itjust.works 85 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 34 points 11 hours ago

You're right, thanks for adding context. I'm immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn't turning up any articles, only social media links.

Here's a French article about it.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Australia watching on with regret.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Morrison is such a dickhead.

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Morrison knew what he was doing, the sub deal was to poison the chalice before Labor gained the majority.

Unfortunately for the walking sack of salmonella and shitty curry, his wrangler (Murdoch) managed to sway the election enough to get the LNP back in power.

I have actually met Morrison in person once (friends of friends of friends) and he is a fucking moron but JFC he's at least a brain cell or two ahead of Dutton

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We knew that BEFORE the election and yet elected the LNP anyway, fuck voters.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lamp Oil, Rope, Nuclear Subs? You want it? It's yours, my friend. As looong as you have enough Euros.

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 68 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.

An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 41 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we're the bad guys...

[–] XenGi@feddit.org 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren't the bad guys?

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.

[–] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Looks at founding fathers... Yeah killed the slavers. Puts blanket over Native Indians. Hides Chinese rail workers under rug. Renames Irish "Indentured workers"

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.

I kinda root for them in the war of independence

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a "nuclear deterrent".

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 6 hours ago

Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 49 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Let's go! France is here to protect Canada!

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 20 points 12 hours ago

Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” Merci a la belle France πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ€πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Vive la France!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 31 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:

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or like this:

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Asking the real questions

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

The top one looks like he got hit on the head.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

The scale of these things is always fascinating. They're always much larger than I think they are.

For reference, I think that's a Suffren class, making it just shy of 100m, or a tad longer than a football field for my fellow Americans.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

perchance, banana for scale?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

It's there, but hard to see.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It's a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Whollottabanana!

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The previously-mentioned French article says it's a Barracuda, but I don't know if that's a model or a class.

And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its "premium" model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.

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[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

β€œBring it” - France probably

[–] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I believe it's "Le Bring it"

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t tease me!

NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!

πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ¦…πŸŽ†

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 11 points 12 hours ago
[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Finally. Letting the French keep a little bit of Canada pays off.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

During a period with seemingly very little good news in the world, I really needed this. Assuming it was done for the optics it conveys, it's some much needed reassurance that our allies actually have our back. Granted, we're still absolutely fucked in the short term if the worst happens, it's still nice to see.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 hours ago

Here's a French article about it. It's not a show of force, it's a naval defense company showing off their submarine in the hopes of being granted a 60 billion dollar contract for 12 submarines that the Canadian government announced last summer.

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 hours ago
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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Important note: The "Nuclear" in "Nuclear attack submarine" means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An "attack" submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.

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