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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 78 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

There is no use in getting overwhelmed. I am merely getting more practiced in drinking larger and larger amounts of whiskey and smoking larger and larger amounts of cannabis to deal with it.

We all have a process

And hopefully, at least most of us will survive.

If not, for all of you fascists: I have a plan to destroy all of you that involves an enormous amount of pee. Like, so much, you can’t fucking imagine. An absolute cavalcade of pee.

Don’t try me

#PeeStrong

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The rest of us, in the civilised world, watch on from behind our fingers in horror and bewilderment

America is a classic case of the elephant chained to a small stake as a baby

The learnt helplessness of the population is nuts

Chained to a small stake, yes. But there's also the greater threat of being shot and told it was your fault if the stake comes out.

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[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, let's be real.

It's gonna get a whole lot worse.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hope you're wrong. I really, really hope.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Yeah. Especially living in a society actively sliding towards some of the worst features described in some of the fictional worlds I enjoyed in novels coupled with a police state. It was never perfect, ever, but the amplification of the awful parts is really depressing.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Even when things aren't all fascist, we're still disposable wage slaves for the elite. And somehow that's what we're supposed to be working to maintain.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's nearly dissociative. It's utterly unreal.

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I sometimes wonder if I'll ever be inspired again. Or feel motivated.

Seeing a convict run amok and President really fucks with your mental health.

Seeing the blatantly corrupt and evil people just makes it hard to care about anything anymore.

I sometimes just stare in the dark night wondering why im still here when other people who wanted to do things are not here anymore.

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[–] Stapps@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alexei Yurchak who was a professor of anthropology coined a term for this: Hypernormalisation.

From Wikipedia: "He introduced the word in his book 'Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation', which describes paradoxes of Soviet life during the 1970s and 1980s. He says everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine any alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society. Over time, the mass delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy, with everyone accepting it as the new norm rather than pretend."

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The weird thing is it's kind of more bizarre than a dystopian society. In dystopia, you know resources are scarce and that you have to defend yourself with violence. But in this actual dystopia, I can still get up and go play disc golf, pretty much without incident. There could come a day when I'm pulled over by some Nazi cop who decides to make an example of me, which face it, has been the case for some time now, but until then for little things like that, it's pretty much business as usual despite the plummet into fascism. Very weird.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

Scarcity is artificial with our level of technology and our ingenuity.

It's a myth, we are able to produce more than enough even with many countless individuals in dire straits maintaining the world's economy/production. We produce so much that we can afford to waste incredible amounts of food and other goods without batting an eye.

What if the individuals slaving were given the ingredients to be happy and healthy, with their human rights and needs respected?

Personally, I believe the world would get even more productive, things would start making sense, people wouldn't have to work so hard, we'd see forward movement in our societies, and without a doubt we'd see incredible advancements.

I refuse to believe that everybody would laze about, leave the "hard" jobs unattended, and let the world rot.

If we can work this hard while we are forced to survive, forced to live in lack while the landfills pile up to the sky — there's no way we wouldn't be incredibly more efficient if people could take a second to breathe and fill their cup. If everybody could take a second and look around and see where things could be even better, where they can make a difference, everything would surely very quickly improve.

There's no way to convince me that "peak productivity" is everybody emptying their cup and breaking the glass to pay debts and to afford necessities.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used to read through history and so frequently I would wonder things like "how did these serfs just put up with this for so long?"

I no longer wonder these things.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

there's also the matter that most of the time, you didn't have to deal with noble strangers with horses expecting your loyalty (often, not the same nobles and horses as the last ones to come around). There may be the local lord but he had good cause to keep things consistent and open up the grain reserves whenever the winter was bad and crops failed.

But the keen thing that changed in the 20th century is we went from a desperate labor shortage to a labor surplus. There was just tons to do and no giant machines with which to do them. Death was right around the corner: A boar attack here, a bad influenza there, any kind of infection (no antibiotics), so people were dropping dead often enough that every last idiot, hunchback and bastard daughter were celebrated as a strong back that could churn butter or assemble barrels or pitch hay.

In fact, society was so fraught that clergy who knew the deal would look the other way when peasants were rutting like bunnies out of wedlock in springtime. (Stories are told and songs are sung of parish priests who were a bit strict on the sins, and how they had a tendency toward morbid mishap.)

We have crusades and territorial disbutes to thank for higher ranks getting into common business. The Third Crusade (King Richard v. Salah ad-Din) squeezed the peasants hard in England. Then Richard went cooky, disguised himself as a merchant, and was seized for ransom, and a king's ransom was a lot. So the peasants were squeezed so hard it hurt the earls, and John of England (last of his name to this very day) was already a Trumpian / Neroesque asshole, and the economy was already tanked when Richard died in 1199, and at that point enough people were pissed off at unilateral monarchy they made John sign the Magna Carta at swordpoint. Several times.

And that was the beginning of the end of monarchy.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, sure, the Faro plague has consumed all of Eurasia, but have you considered seeing a therapist?

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Fuck Ted Faro

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago

Isn't "everyone acting like it's normal" a dystopian nightmare trope?

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I feel like it’s always been? I read a lot of history and there’s not many instances of peace and prosperity for all. Things considered im happy i live in the modern world, wish I could live in the pre 9/11 sweet spot, shit wasn’t off the deep end as far as it is now, and homes were affordable

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

pre 9/11 sweet spot

There's a line in Fight Club about how Jack's generation has no great war, out no way to prove themselves. It really is a great example of how things felt pre-9/11.

I am Jack's overwhelming sense of buyer's remorse.

I recently watched that movie when I turned 40. It hits different when you’re older, when you’re a teen or young person half of it goes over your head. Especially how young people glorify it and the whole fight club thing, not grasping that the movie is about toxic masculinity among other things

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, the current climate change situation is unparalleled in human history.

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Yeah I've been feeling bizarre as the US falls into fascism and ill just be at work like any other day

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

William Gibson wrote: The future has arrived, it's just not evenly distributed.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"We should boycott Amazon for firing all their workers in my province."

"Why bother, boycotts do nothing."

How is that the default response and not "FUCK THIS COMPANY"

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[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This weekend I built a shed in my back yard, which was a nice bit of father-son bonding, and stockpiled ammo in case civil unrest causes widespread violence to break out in our neighborhood.

Definitely a strange vibe.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

plant food trees and gardens…

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Society has a lot of inertia.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well people aren't having kids anymore so I guess we're doing what we can

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

Every child that isn't born is a life saved.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

I see the housing bubbles all over the world and am glad I wasn't born 10 years later. I'm also screwed for not being born 10 years earlier.

[–] Notserious@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I felt this feeling as we were finding out we invaded Iraq under false pretenses to make money for blackrock. We never did anything. I figured people would change but after voting in same clown after the shitshow he did last time…..

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

The average American reads at an 8th grade level, with slightly more than half reading at a 6th grade level.

We have been cognitively neutered, by design.

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[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The word hypernormalisation was coined by Alexei Yurchak a professor of anthropology who was born in Leningrad. He introduced the word which describes paradoxes of life during the 1970s and 1980s in the USSR. He says everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine any alternative to the status quo and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society. Over time, the mass delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy with everyone accepting it as the new norm rather than pretend.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I spend a lot of money of booze and weed for this reason.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

All day everyday

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When the weight of the world feels overwhelming, remember this: Everything humans have ever done, every building, road, machine, and moment, makes up only a tiny fraction of this planet’s mass. We are small creatures, clinging to the surface of a vast, ancient, quietly turning sphere. The Earth itself is not in crisis. It simply is. Steady, silent, and endlessly patient. If human noise becomes too much, just place your hand on the ground. Feel the stillness. Let it remind you that you are connected to something far older, far larger, and far more enduring than any headline or heartbreak. The Earth will hold you.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But what about the animals that are going to die?

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago

Do you ever statement framed as a question?

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[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate the state of things, but what drives me crazy is pushing it in people's faces and still watching them go back to school and work and talk about whatever typical bullshit they're thinking about.

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