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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago (3 children)

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Retweeted by the official White House account.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wonder what all of his Protestant Evangelical backers think of this.

My eschatology is a bit rusty, but I think this is the type of thing that they thought the Antichrist would do. But maybe that's why the evangelicals back him, thinking the rapture is just around the corner....

(Or maybe, the "rapture" is happening right now, except instead of the chosen, worthy people being disappeared to Heaven, they're all being disappeared to El Salvador. The joke's on all those evangelicals, I guess. Ha.)

Edited to add: Doesn't "El Salvador" literally translate to "The Savior"? Kidnapping the innocent and whisking them to "The Savior", never to be seen again, definitely tracks.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just to note: these books are heavily based on dispensationalist pseudo-theology.

But I agree that trump is an Antichrist

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

100% agreed on the pseudo-theology. Left Behind is a terrible series.

I just find it funny, because he acts like Carpathia. Like, Carpathia is characterized as smart and charismatic, but nothing in the writing backs that up - it relies heavily on some sort of magical attraction. Which is got to be the only way that you can explain how conservative Christians who have spent the last 50 years shrieking about sexual morality have latched onto this guy like he’s the Second Coming if you believe any of this shit. (The real answer of course, is that opposition to LGBT people was on the whole not religiously motivated, just “we don’t like the icky people.”)

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agree. But, is dispensationalism really "pseudo-theology" if people believe it?

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Heresy then?
It's a biblical interpretation framework based on giving theological significance to the order of the books in the Bible, ignoring previous history of theology and history of the formation of the Bible.
Theology is one the oldest sciences, it has Method; Dispensationalism throws it away and does it's own thing.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The question I think is the Protestant vs Catholic orthodoxy versus orthopraxy. Discarding works. Often not caring about following rules - you just tearfully apologize and say you’ve talked about it with Jesus. Jim Baker is the name that springs to mind immediately, but if you asked me to compile a list of similar hypocrites it would be encyclopedic level work.

A big thing too is that practice and theology have never been married. If Christ has been the Church’s bridegroom - I can’t think of any Church that can really claim to have been faithful. Certain types of people just get their sins overlooked. Trump exemplifies that - the Mark Driscoll disgustingly misogynistic style pastors that haunt every small town in the Midwest, where rape is an inconvenience and “WIVES SELL PUSSY FOR LIFE” in the words of “Yeezus.”

The Catholic Church exemplifies this in its failure to adequately address the sexual abuse crises and at times active cover up (what did Jesus say about millstones?) There’s also the Magdalene Laundries, the burning of basically all Mayan literature, and so on…

So blah blah blah - the point being - when have the people being called Christian really cared about what the darn book even says? We talk here as if Christianity is not for them more of a weird ethnocultural idea, with something akin more to our most primitive instincts to group and out group?

“Christianity” that I have interacted with has always been this strange distortion. This post Scofield and Darby distortion. So many atheists think the gotcha on the rules matters to many of them - it doesn’t.

It’s like arguing with a Dallas Cowboys fan.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's all from those books, right? I haven't read them.

But I do know that Trump likes Golden Toilets, and has made his own crypto shitcoin. So maybe he is the Shitty Antichrist?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He’s already got a few golden statues.

It’s not like he’s shared AI videos of his imagined Gaza resort.

Can’t wait until he and Bibi team up to build the new Temple, and freedom loving patriots sign up to get their Neurolink chip in their right hand or forehead…

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is he a hobbit in that statue?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

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Kender are a more apt comparison. No Proudfoot would ever.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"Evangelical", when I was a kid, meant "racist who is mega devoted to the Bible and goes to church twice a week, and maybe doesn't apply enough critical thinking to what the preacher says." They'd know Bible quotes, ask themselves what Jesus would do, and although I completely disagreed with them and fled the state I lived in ASAP, they were coming from a sincere place.

Evangelical", today, is purely a statement of political alignment with MAGA. Most don't even go to church. They're literally willing to worship a golden idol.

[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dude is literally the antichrist

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Do we talk about ridding ourselves of the antichrist or would that be “uncivil” and “inciting violence?”

[–] blargle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Arguably the Antipope (or would be, if he decides to keep pushing this '''joke''' like he has with the conquering Canada crap...)

This is so insane

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is a flex. It means “watch me insult the largest Christian organization on earth with literally no consequences. My base’s support won’t budge and the rest of you cowards will continue to take it.” Has nothing to do with the pope or being the pope- it’s just another demoralization tactic.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Do it. Become pope.

US Constitution, Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

No more presidency for you, dumbass.

(but then again, the constitution doesn't seem to matter any more so what do I know 🤷‍♂️)

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Trump has been in flagrant violation of the 'emoluments' part of that section for the entirety of his presidency — both terms.

Guess what consequences he faced for that. Go on, guess!

[–] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

without the Consent of Congress

They'd just give their consent, and we'd still be in "not quite a constitutional crisis" we've been in since he took office.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

without the Consent of the Congress

I don't see the problem, Congress wil consent to anything, let him do anything; he could grab them right by the legislativussy

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This guy is so crass and so gormless he doesn't hesitate for one second to spit in the face of 1.5bn Catholics in the world.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind a picture of Trump as a dead Pope...

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Catholics (in America at least) would happily let him spit in their faces, as long as he continues to make abortions harder to get. Never mind the fact that the Church is equally against the death penalty, or treating migrants like cattle....

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

American catholics are very different to european catholics. Not that european catholics are good, but compared to the US version they are outright progressive.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey Texas, a political meme is using AI to push an agenda. You going to do something about it?

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

They literally live by the phrase, "come and take it." No, they won't do shit.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's going to pull a Henry VIII and make a state sanctioned version of Christianity called the Church of America, isn't he.

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know, that would make a lot of sense with his “we need to forget about the separation of church and state” comments.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe they could stop bothering with the “charter schools aren’t public but can get public money to teach religion” fig leaf.

We’ll just have public schools which have a state sponsored religion, which acknowledges our great hero - an instrument of god himself.

What number of felonies would it have taken to call Obama a “son of lawlessness?”

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Would love to see this honestly. You'll see at least a couple of million come over instantly.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 13 points 23 hours ago

The guy bankrupts everything he touches. Go ahead, take down the church.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ONLY the TRUE Chosen One Of God would DO something like THAT! Now I'm even MORE CONVINCED Convicted Fraudster and Rapist and Thrice Married Billionaire Donald John Trump is GODS SON!

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago

lol what a loser

[–] cyphear@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Elon wishes to be Emperor of Mankind.

His heresy must fail.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the love of all that is actually holy, I hope they excommunicate his ass.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He’s not Catholic. JD Vance supposedly is.

Trump claims to be a non denominational Christian.

WHAM 1180 AM radio host Bob Lonsberry asked the Republican front-runner if he had a favorite verse or story from the Bible that’s impacted his thinking or character.

“Well, I think many. I mean, you know, when we get into the Bible, I think many. So many,” he responded. “And some people—look, an eye for an eye, you can almost say that. That’s not a particularly nice thing. But you know, if you look at what’s happening to our country, I mean, when you see what’s going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us.”

Now, I’m not a Christian anymore but I think it’s reasonable to say that is not an expected response to “what’s your favorite Bible verse or character.” Hell, as an atheist/discordian I can barely stop myself from infodumping my favorites on here. (Judah and Tamar, I also absolutely love Jesus and the Canaanite woman)

“Christian” is more of a cultural/community marker for these people, and a vague “I hope I see grandma again” than it is anything resembling “faith.”

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

This guy can’t be serious.

[–] StarkRavingReal@me.dm 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@andros_rex
As a catholic I'm offended, I imagine the red hat crowd adores this... They think he's sooo clever.... he surely didn't think of this on his own,,, he;s really not that clever

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ok I ate the onion on this one.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The excuse that he posts shitty obnoxious crap “just to piss off the libs” doesn’t fly, because in the end he’s still posting shitty obnoxious crap.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump wants a job where one of the rules is no having sex? I don't buy it for a second. Also, imagine the shock wave traveling around the world as every conservative head in America exploded at once if Obama had posted something like this.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It’s like a Bethesda game. Maybe he’ll try to get appointed Dalai Lama and Kwisatz Haderach next. He’s probably got a side path where he’s trying to head the Illuminati (repeatedly discovering it doesn’t exist) and like the Priory of Sion or something.

Maybe we’re living in Thomas Pynchon’s DMT death dream.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, who else are you going to get to run the largest pedophile ring in the world?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He’s certainly got the network.

“She confided in me about her casual ‘friendship’ with Donald. Mr Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her and she told me how he kept going on about how he liked her ‘pert nipples’,” she testified.

She then described in graphic detail how Mr Trump allegedly caused pain to the victim’s nipples – and claimed she saw the resulting injury firsthand.

In further Left Behind Antichrist parallels, quite a few of the business close to Carpathia get knocked off as he consolidates power. The kind of people who might know where bodies are buried, or what really happened on the night in Epstein’s cell.

Where's Chaim when you need him?

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