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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Probably not. To make it work they will have to push some funding into the school system which they will not. That’s virtue signaling at the provincial government level

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, Legault government wants new immigrants to speak French (which is a good thing) but cut the funding for French classes for immigrants (what?)

So I am afraid you are right. They want to look good but won't do jackshit, as always.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like an attempt to increase the barrier to entry.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I still do not understand how this is not the standard in school across the country. I don't care if children kick and scream about this, that is what children do when they do not get their toys and there is absolutely no reason for a child to even own a smartphone.

[–] rms1990@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

good. kids don't need their phones in class to be bombarded from propaganda from tiktok and instagram

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

If they're going to do this, then they better be supplying scientific calculators to students.

Still remember my family not bothering to get me one since we were "tight on funds" (ie, we don't want to sacrifice alcohol and smoke money), and I used an emulator by the name of WabbiteMu in order to follow in my math class.

Not all students use their phones to slack off, and if they can't access the resources they need to succeed on their phone, it damn well should be the case the schools provides those resources for them.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

A calculator is a couple of orders of magnitude cheaper than a phone. Single vs triple digits.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

More reason to provide it to students that can't afford them then.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

It's a bit puzzling to me that we are worrying about replacing a very expensive thing that (some) students own with a very cheap thing. Like, yes of course, give everyone a damn calculator, but really, now you guys feel the sudden urge to advocate for that? If someone can't afford a 9$ calculator, they also didn't afford it last week, when phones were not banned. Where was all the concern about students who can't afford calculators last week? It's silly.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Why now? Because that is what is being discussed in this thread.

I believe that education should be a 100% free, down to the material used in class. But we are talking about phones replacing calculators, not how we think the education should be.

So yeah, give everyone a damn calculator.

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Graphing calculators are 100% necessary, we used them regularly for sine wave and logarithmic functions to pinpoint specific plot values on a graph. A $9 calculator doesn't cover that.

EDIT: Getting downvoted for this is crazy work, they literally would list the Ti-85 in our school supplies list.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Question, were you a student in Quebec?

(Not downvoting you.)

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

Quebec, no, but in Alberta. I'd be surprised if the curriculum there didn't touch on topics requiring graphing calculators though since it was just about all we did in 11th and 12th grade math class. It was quite literally a necessity to have the Ti ones specifically too since everything was taught using inputs for the things.

[–] offspec@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, the wabbit emu is for replacing a TI graphing calculator which is north of ~$150 in the US. Still cheaper than a phone, but only a third or so the price of my daily driver at the time of purchase.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

This is an article about Quebec. Do students in Quebec need this kind of tool?

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

You don't need a graphing calculator. I did all my scholarship with a sharp writeview that costs 20$. It does integrals, derivatives, matrices, complex algebra, vector algebra and everything else you could possibly need.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

They said "scientific" calculator, not "graphing". As in their parents weren't willing to spend that $20 (or less) for what I'd consider the most basic useful calculator.

[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I needed one to play doom, like a normal person