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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh no, the convict lied.

This is the dangerous part about being someone like trump. Everyone expects him to lie and fuck things up, so when he does, nobody is outraged and there are no consequences.

Also people are afraid of him. A classic bully. I was watching how he said on tv how he is a nice guy. Its amazing.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Oh, there will be consequences, count on it. Fascist regimes always collapse under the weight of their own virtuosic incompetence, because they are based on philosophy, usually seriously flawed philosophy, and not competence.

And when they collapse, the leader and his henchmen usually die very unpleasant, very violent, very deserved deaths.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If only she hadn't participated in the backstabbing of Bernie during the 2020 primaries, we night not be here.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is what EVERYBODY doesn't understand: The DNC is NEVER going to select Bernie because he is NOT a Democrat. He is, and always has been, an Independant.

The presidential nomination is the highest award a party can give to a member, and they are going to give it to a loyal member who has supported the party, raised money for them, praised their actions, etc. Bernie has done none of that. He may caucus with the Dems, but he doesn't raise money for them, and he has often been very critical of Democrats.

He's NOT a Democrat, and there was never a time when the Democrats would give him the nomination, no matter how many votes he got in the primary. They wouldn't give him the nomination any more that they'd give it to a Republican.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Idk, he came close in 2016, we could probably get AOC if a lot more than 30 Million people participated in the primary.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah seriously. Bernie would have solved everything. AOC 2028!

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Performative. No meaningful action.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not sure what you’re thinking is going to happen right now when dems are a minority in the house and senate.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What did Mitch McConnell do when the Democrats had a supermajority under Obama, sit with his thumb up his ass?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mitch McConnell had the benefit of dealing with weak, spineless Dem weenies who would roll over for him, even though they had majorities.

MAGA Nazis aren't going to be cooperative.

Well it's a sure thing that nothing will happen if they don't try.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He filibustered.

Cabinet Appointments cannot be filibustered under current senate rules. Same for SCOTUS judges.

He did filibuster Public Option into the grave, though.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when did the Republicans give two shits about some bullshit "senate rules?" They just change that shit whenever it suits them.

So do the same.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sure that's a swell plan, sport.

You only need a simple majority to change senate rules, so you need to convince 4 Republican Senators and 2 Independents, and I think there are maybe 1 or 2 Democrats who might need some arm twisting.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

be specific. he also wanted obama to have a single term. That didn't happen.

The Republicans broke the record for obstruction under Obama. We need that to happen right now under Trump.

We need a left Tea Party.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

people are just pissed and venting about past inaction, is it useful? no, but I think the frustration of your country turning to fascism after Bernie's electoral chances were sabotaged is understandable

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wtf?

Bernie ran in pretty successful but also lost the primaries by some pretty sizeable margins.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

i actually didn't read into it, I've just always heard the narrative that the DNC snubbed Bearnie, did the propaganda catch me?

[–] AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

See, your whole "right now" thing is a worry. It implies a belief that the Democrats will ever be allowed any semblance of power in the future.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Get the impeachment going. Even if it fails (it will), the members who vote against it will be noted in time for the time of the midterms. Do it a few times and you can establish a pattern.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For the people screaming for the Dems to do something: this is it. This is the extent of their power with the number of votes they have. If anything, we should be urging Republican lawmakers to abandon ship.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How about getting a filing of an impeachment notion going? No doubt it'd fail, but it goes on record and everyone who voted against it gets listed. Keep it going and you see the pattern by the time the midterms come around?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Shri Thanedar filed 7 articles this month alone, Al Green filed several back in February.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

You just described her whole political career.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are minority in senate and congress so not sure what you’re expecting here.

[–] WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least not vote for cabinet picks.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't be filibustered, and as was the case with Pete Hegseth even if every Dem said NO and even 3 Republicans said NO they still had enough votes to appoint them.

It was kind of a "choosing the devil you know" situation.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then, all Dems should say no.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do or don't, it doesn't matter.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Optics matter, regardless of how much it helps. Why do you think Elizabeth Warren is doing this stunt? How much difference do you think it made? When Dems vote with Republicans after all the heinous shit they've shown this year, they are failing to stand for their principles. OTOH, if Warren didn't do this stunt, no one would actually complain or criticise her.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you think all Democrats are compromised and that Warren should be criticized for speaking out against Trump?

You don't exactly have the optics of the resistance yourself, my dude.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, I'm saying performative actions are performative actions, but one type shows to the voters how united Dems are against fascism, and the other doesn't. You are way too supportive of the latter and dismissive of the former, which makes me suspicious of your own agenda.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My agenda is to give people confidence in the Democratic Party and remove as many Republicans as possible. Building up our allies to stand against our enemy.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dismissing the importance of showing the voters how they stand against fascism is not how you give people the confidence in the Democratic Party, it's how you keep them from winning the next election. Its these types of performative action that only relies on talk and not action is what will keep the Democrats from regaining the lost trust from the voters.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no possible action, as we've already discussed that in depth in this thread. The only action was and is to elect more democrats.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've already said what they should do and you've already dismissed it. Now you're pretending there is no possible action to take. Its either you can't read or are being willfully ignorant, not to mention how you never addressed my main point. It's apparent how talking to you never resulted in a productive discussion.

You can keep letting Democrats as a whole pretend to care about their voters while excusing every bad thing they ever did and I'll just watch America slide into fascism as voters continue to lose trust in the DNC.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry that you think your nothing is better than their nothing.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remind me why he hasn't been removed from office

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The senate is 53 Republican to 45 Democrat and 2 Independent. Requires 60 to Remove.

The articles also have to pass the house which is 219R to 215D.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

You go gurl!

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