Look at how close it was. Canada may want to start stomping down the Trump wannabes now or they will be where the US is in about 10 years (or sooner).
this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
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I think "stomping down" is the wrong phrase to use. Regardless, I have a couple in my family... Asking them "how do I change your mind" or "what would need to happen for you to even consider the other side" has shown me some people can't be helped.
I wanted to vote NDP but I felt I had to vote Liberal to negate their PP vote. My riding is liberal this time and I'm super happy.
The ones that can't be reasoned with; They have to be stomped down. We tried to be nice to the maggots, but it didn't work.
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An electoral reform wouldn't hurt.
This is my main thought. Once the immediate threat of Trump is past, the country will return to the global standard of "elect whoever wasn't running things when everything got worse". I hope the liberals see that writing on the wall and put electoral reform in place so that the smaller parties stand a chance and aren't all killed by the usual "strategic voting" nonsense.
I really think it's Canada's best shot at not electing a Conservative majority when the party seems to be at peak crazy. I'd really rather not count on them returning to the center over the next 4 years when global politics is more divided than I've ever seen.
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As someone watching from the US (and who has looked at possibly ~~immigrating~~ emigrating there) that's what I noticed too. It seemed like the split wasn't too far from Trump's current approval rating. Luckily Canada doesn't have to deal with the disaster that is the electoral college. This result however does make me really concerned about Canada's next big election.
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Hopefully this will signal to the Conservatives that Canadians don't have any use for a demagogue who attributes the world's ills to "wokeness," but I'm not holding my breath.
Conservatives have more seats now so thatβs definitely not the lesson theyβre learning. Probably this just means that they need to pick a rural district to run their party leader
I know nothing about canadian politics, but Fanjoy looks like he is having a lot of fun and joy. πΊ
To give a bit of context. The person in second, Pierre Poilievre, is the leader of the Conservative party and campaigned for Prime Minister of Canada. Canadians don't vote directly for Prime Minister. The country is divided into a few hundred ridings and each riding gets to elect a Member of Parliament. The party with the most MPs gets to form government, and their leader becomes the Prime Minister.
Not only has Poilievre failed to win enough seats for the Conservative party to form government, he might not even win his own seat. A seat he has held for 20 years. It would be embarrassing for him and hilarious for all the Canadians that think he's a dickhead.
Thanks for clarification!
not even win his own seat
As in he won't be elected as a member of parliament because not enough people voted for him in his region?
He wasn't elected.
Results are in.
Bro for real?!
CBC shows P.P. as defeated.
Singh also was defeated.
The co-leader of Green too. Jonathan. May still held hers.
Oh an Maxime didn't get a seat either :)
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So crazy that the Conservative Party still has 144 seats given that they've basically signed on to a policy of foreign occupation.
Feels like I'm watching liberated France send Philippe PΓ©tain back in as the Loyal Opposition with 40% of the vote.
That's not what their base believes. There is a whole other fantasy reality in their channels about how Carney has planned all along to cut a secret deal with Trump after the election. Other justification narratives probably exist as well, because they have to keep people believing that obviously, everyone knows we couldn't possibly do anything other than completely fold into Trump's plans. They spew propagandistic garbage like this and teach people to distrust legit media that understands context and checks facts rather than running with conspiracy theories based on flimsy evidence.
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A very important thing to remember this election: The Conservatives had a 30-point lead and were set to gain over 200 seats in a sweeping majority victory and they blew it. They blew it and their leader lost his own seat. The fact we even have a Liberal minority at all is incredible.
So while the Conservative party still has a lot of seats, enough Canadians disliked PP and his campaign enough to erode a 30 point lead. PP says he is staying on as party leader but his party would be incredibly foolish to keep him. His campaign cost them a historical election victory and the dude can't even get elected in his own riding.
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I helped!
If Canada had Australian-style preferential voting (i.e. you numbered your candidates in order of preference, and if your first choice got eliminated, your vote cascaded to your second, and so on until it was tallied for your least-disliked of the two leading candidates), the Liberals would have a significantly more comfortable margin (assuming that they got most of the Greensβ preferences and at least half of the NDP)
We were supposed to get election reform after the liberals won in 2015 and I'm still quite bitter about it
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I believe the whole world would be in much better shape if everyone handled elections like Australia. We certainly wouldn't have had Trump ever here. When more people vote the Democrats win every time.
I strongly support mandatory voting. If you're against voting at all for whatever reason, just turn in a blank form. And I'm no big fan of the Democrats, but they wouldn't be kidnapping people to send them to concentration camps.
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So, now what for Poilievre?
Maybe the knives come out and he's forced out as Conservative leader. I mean, he had a 20 percentage point lead over the Liberals and lost it. That has to piss them off. All he needed to do is do what Doug Ford did and stand up for Canada and against Trump.
But, if he doesn't step down, where does he get someone to step down so he can run in a by-election? If he wants to stay near Ottawa, he'll really have to move somewhere rural. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who actually likes rural people or rural life very much. Or, he could move to Alberta. Lots of safe Conservative ridings in Alberta, some are even in urban areas. But, will they want a guy who is the very model of a carpet-bagger? A politician who has never had a job outside of politics, not just from "Ottawa" meaning the federal government, but who has literally lived in Ottawa(ish) for years?
I hope they ditch him. I'm sure the conservative party could do a lot worse, but there's also a chance they could find a leader who has actually done something with their lives outside politics, and who has their own ideas, not just reheated culture war crap from Canada's Shorts and just shouting down anything the Liberals suggest.
He lost his seat. He's toast. He'll be writing op-eds for Postmedia in a month.
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Makes me feel a lot bettter about losing high quality men such as Jagmeet Singh and Jonathan Pedneault!
Can't agree! Muclair and Singh moved so far to center they destroyed the party. Not just my words, the party removed all reference to socialism from the party constitution.
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Oh no, did Jagmeet lose his seat too? I'm a liberal but Jagmeet is a good guy, didn't deserve that.
He did, and he's stepping down as party leader. Personally, I think it's a good thing. His leadership has been far too soft and cuddly. The NDP need a leader who will channel the anger a lot of Canadians are feeling at watching their quality of life get sold off to oligarchs.
I'm just spit-balling here, but is it totally off the table to dig up Jack Layton and elect him in some kind of "Weekend at Bernie's" type shenanigan?
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I really like Singh. He is a GOOD man. A GOOD leader. I want to be at a party with him in the room. But I agree, he wasn't the factor in his fate. The centre left sacrificed the NDP for the libs because of the US. Strategic voting worked. If they hadn't this would have been a conservative win. It's acceptable because the alternative is disastrous.
Singh's cuddlyness was probably trying to follow Le Bon Jacque's lead. Fluffy warm and cuddly via Layton got the NDP some big successes and bigger hopes until tragedy struck.
I'm more worried about the next election. A minority in a time of great struggle won't go full term. I give this around 3 years. The libs can't win the next, no one goes 5 terms in a row.
Lets assume the Cons take the next, and the NDP get a bounceback from extreme liberal fatigue. Does the NDP need Hope or Anger? I'm not sure, but we saw a lot of rural areas be two way con/ndp. These areas would probably respond to channeled anger. Flip a few blue to Orange.
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Are people watching fox news in canada as well? Or is it twitter and facebook?
Yes to both. Also, Tiktok, Joe Rogan, and Jordan Peterson for the younger ones, and every newspaper being part of the American owned right wing Postmedia behemoth for the olds who still read the paper.
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