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Asking after the privacy debacle and manifest. I'm not keeping up closely, but iirc Firefox is the browser recommended because of Ublock. After the privacy data issue I've noticed broken trust from Firefox users, recommendations in favor of switching browsers, and predictions saying Firefox is going downhill fast and that their forks won't be maintained for much longer.

So I'm here asking the seasoned sailors' thoughts, aye. Is this just a storm passing by or are you really considering jumping ship?

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[–] DARbarian@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. LibreWolf & Waterfox are top-tier, Zen and Mullvad Browsers aren't bad at all

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I will say as nice as Zen seems (I agree that it's not bad), I don't really like the whole "vertical tabs" shtick. I mean, I can see why some people would like that, but personally I never got into it. It just looks weird to me and I like seeing more of my tab names (weirdly enough that's exactly what a lot of pro-vertical users claim is good about them lol).

Also, from a privacy standpoint, not a huge fan personally of the fact that unlike LibreWolf, Zen Browser doesn't have ResistFingerprinting enabled by default (not sure if it's even in there tbh).

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[–] giddy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am sticking with Firefox but looking at hardening with https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

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[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ll put my vote in for LibreWolf. Happy to help anyone with a ‘i can’t get librewolf to…’ or ‘this site is broken on librewolf’, etc to help you tweak it.

But i keep both installed. Libre for my daily driver. FF if there’s a site that i absolutely need to be identifiable for.

[–] xye@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will gladly take you up on this, not sure if it’s possible: trying to get the Toonami Aftermath site to work on librewolf

[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting. I'm surprised it works on any browser.

From what I can see, when www.toonamiaftermath.com loads, it gets a guest id from api.toonamiaftermath.com.

www.toonamiaftermath.com has a well configured SSL chain per https://www.scyscan.com/check-ssl/result/www.toonamiaftermath.com.

However, api.toonamiaftermath.com is missing an intermediary certificate authority per https://www.scyscan.com/check-ssl/result/api.toonamiaftermath.com. Note how there's only 1 record in the chain at the bottom of the page. It should resolve all the way upto ISRG Root X1 or X2 per https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/

This is on the server admin to fix up.

If however, you like to live dangerously, you can force LibreWolf to ignore the error (Keep in mind, this is the browser saying "We can't confirm that this server is who they say they are").

In LibreWolf, open the dev tools panel. (Press F12) Click onto the Network tab. Then load https://www.toonamiaftermath.com/ In the Network panel, you should see one record in red for https://api.toonamiaftermath.com/ trying to load bundle.js with the error NS_ERROR_ blah blah SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER. Double click that record and it'll open a new tab showing you FF's/LibreWolf's "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead" page.
Click on Advanced, then "Accept the Risk and Continue". You might see the service response, you might only see the screen flicker. In any case, reload https://www.toonamiaftermath.com/ and repeat for any subsequent errors. It should challenge for every subdomain/package.
Once done, the site should work for you. You might need to manually click play depending on your other browser settings.

Good luck. You'll need to occasionally re-accept the SSL errors. As mentioned, there's a problem with the trust chain. The site owner likely hasn't set it up correctly, and should be causing it to fail on all browsers. You might have a cached chain somewhere that's allowing it to work on that particular browser.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io -1 points 1 month ago

Fuck Mozilla, is all I've got to say.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

Left them 4 years ago (after 20ish years), so...

There is no benefit to using Firefox unless you really like uBlock Origin and will not consider another kind of adblocker.

Mozilla is just controlled opposition lead by the same greedy executives as Google anyway, using it won't make a difference. It's at best 3% market share won't stop Google from pushing their crap to everyone else either.

Problems of the modern web in general cannot be solved by just another browser engine. What it really needs is simplification. A way to make it do what it does now but faster and in a way that is easier to implement, but I don't see anyone doing that in the near future.

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