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Hopefully people can stop with the "I bet Bethesda will take down skyblivion!1!!" comments now. It's very clear there's good will between modders and the devs.

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[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

God so many people on here act like Todd Howard personally killed their child. It's fucking insufferable. You guys don't crucify other companies like this when it comes to mods. This only happens with Bethesda who is realistically one of the only companies that has supported mods in the mainstream. Games can also be good without mods. Get over yourselves and just enjoy a fucking game.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Shut up I'm entertained seeing all these ignorant people who don't know what they're talking about crying.

[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People are complaining because Bethesda didn't launch the game with official mod support. Meaning it doesn't have a "mods" option on the main menu. Bethesda hasn't said they have a problem with mods or will go after anyone that uses them. But everyone is acting like this means Bethesda suddenly hates mods. Skyrim launched without official mod support too, but somehow it managed to be a successful game on top of having a massive modding community. People just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Bro, literally. Bethesda drops the next-gen update for Fallout 4 right before the show/Fallout: London mod releases, and everyone and their mother believes Bethesda is purposefully sabotaging the FO: Lon team by doing so. Once the dust settles, everyone just goes "oopsie, wasn't me 🤭"

Bethesda "shadow-drops" (there were plenty of leaks and no one seemed to dispute the claims anyway) the release of Oblivion Remastered right when there's a ton of talk about Skyblivion recently being close to completion, and everyone and their mother once again blames Bethesda for purposefully doing so to sabotage yet another huge mod team. When in reality, Bethesda gave copies to each of the team members who are actively working on said project for free as a token of appreciation for being such devoted fans of the IP in the first place.

It's like everyone has these weird "anti-Bethesda" blinders on whenever there's a new thing from them in the news that gathers any bit of hype. Even the Bethesda fanboys are guilty of this.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Official Mod support often gets added later, Starfield for example was launched without and it was added later. This is a general trend nowadays, mod support for Baldurs Gate 3 (as an non Bethesda example) was added later too.

I am sure Oblivion Remastered will get mod support, and I would be very surprised if mod support will not also come with Creations integration.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Always be suspicious of corporations.

[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (17 children)

What is the point of this cynical comment in this context. Everyone is winning here.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't get why some people think Skyblivion is some threat to Bethesda Elder Scrolls games at all. Mods are always going to be more niche than fully marketed and funded maintained commercial storefront releases.

Skyblivion is going to be limited to what the latest Skyrim release engine supports while this remaster has Unreal Engine 5 stapled on top as the graphics renderer. They added new voice acting. People are developing mod toolchains for the remaster. It's more substantial than the vast majority of remasters we've seen

[–] wispy_jsp@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I don't think many people believe that Bethesda views skyblivion as something that will compete for market share. I think it's more of a surprise to people that in an age where so many major companies are quick to go after modders, Bethesda has not only allowed skyblivion to exist but has also officially acknowledged their work in a positive light.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The remaster is good. I hope Skyblivion is good. More games for consumers, the better. People here are commenting as if Bethesda has a responsibility to handhold the entire modding community. They are just doing their thing to make some money with employees that want to get paid and also make good games. Bethesda has had some downs but also some ups. This remaster is an up so I enjoy more Elder Scrolls.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

More TES is always a win imo

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm suspicious, but overall more relaxed. Only wish other companies would be a gracious

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why? Bathesda is probably THE company that supports modders the most. People will still play skyblivion when it comes out.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bethesda "supports" modders the way WOTC "supports" D&D content creators. They profit immensely off of other people's work without lifting a finger but also try to exploit those same creators for even more profit at every possible opportunity. Usually in such a way that it does permanent harm to an otherwise thriving community.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Starfield was the epitome of this. Rather than make a full game and let modders play around, they launched an empty, barren wasteland not-so-subtly made with extensive modding in mind. They figured that they don't have to put effort into delivering a good product since their fans will do that for them following release.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

I am looking forward to playing the Remaster. It sounds like they've fixed pretty much everything I didn't like about the original Oblivion - like the awful level up system. Hopefully they rebalanced the "difficulty" in a good way too. Last time I played Oblivion I remember higher difficulties being boring because it mostly meant even the weakest enemies would take a billion hits to kill.

Skyblivion will be fun to play too.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have been waiting so many years now for Skyblivion that I am not going to bother with the Remaster. And to be honest, something with the Remaster and UE5 feels off visually.

The Skyblivion Teams attention to detail and love for the project makes me believe that it will also be the superior version of Oblivion.

[–] ARk@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

We can eat both

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So it's a remaster, not a remake?

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it's called "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered" after all.

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not that deep into gaming news, I've heard rumors of a remake, so I'm surprised.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

For all intents and purposes it seems to be a remake. It's just stupidly named, so it makes the confusing stuff even more confusing.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They want them to be busy playing this and never finish Skyblivion hahaha

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly that's probably true. Killing them with kindness. If they all have this for free, they may not have much motivation to continue.

[–] rogermiraki@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I seriously doubt they'd give up this close to the end after years and years of work.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Especially cause it's just "Oblivion but shiny"

I love the game and I'm having a blast, but I could definitely see someone whose life revolves around TES anyway to get a bit bored with it already.

If you're anything like me and have done an Oblivion playthrough at least once every year or two since it came out in 2006.

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