Ukraine will turn down the offer. Zero doubt.
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Also I would add that a quick turn down is exactly what certain factions want. A sort of “Ukraine is a hysterical warmonger, told ya, pull the US out.”
I think being aggressively nuanced is pragmatic for Ukraine. Call the US out for crystal clear clarification, quickly and loudly. If we can’t articulate that, then it makes us (the US) look dumb to the rest of the world. If we can, then it’s either significant US commitment, or a tear through the facade.
The key is calling it out before Trump takes over the narrative and this is painted as a gift to Ukraine.
The US already looks very very dumb.
- Rest of the world
tear through the facade
You guys have facades? Na, good joke, these morons are as obvious as a fascist gets
How stupid Russia broke the last cease fire or ignored it, and they got nothing from Trump.
Probably.
First, maybe they’ll ask for clarification on the security guarantee and reconstruction. It sounds like the US put that on Europe without Europe’s input or any real guarantees.
Why would Ukraine trust any security guarantee anyway after the history?
I mean, they shouldn't. You are preaching to the choir here.
It's not what Ukraine did, but I thought it'd be more strategic to call out the US's demands more subtly instead of 'taking the bait' immediately. It robs the US of excuses.
They ran out of excuses a long time ago, and keep making worse and worse statements
No shit, because it's not a offer, it's a piece of shit.
Basically, the Trump Administration is approving the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Enough said.
putin probably has been pressuring trump in secret to end the war quickly, hes getting unhappy over trump.
Trump never had any intention of actually helping Ukraine. Sorry about my government. I'm very ashamed of what we've become.
So the US security guarantee is that the EU, which is not involved in the negotiations, is providing security guarantees. So even if Ukraine excepts, the EU would also have to except or Ukraine has, as in previous negotiations made by the republican administration, nothing.
First they say that Europe shouldn't interfere, then they say that Europe should give guarantees... I have no damn words, it's ridiculous.
I'm pissed off by all this, it's unbelievable, and the worst part is that the American damn people elected this moron as president... it's a damn disaster.
I actually think I hate Trump more than anything else in existence.
This is like 1 sibling takes the others property non stop, and the parents solution to stop the fighting is to tell the victim sibling to just let the other one have it. And then telling them they're being unreasonable when they don't want to.
Which I do know actually happens, I've seen it with my own eyes.