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Apparently, Ukrainian drones pushed through and started a chain reaction.

Explosions reportedly continued for hours, and authorities evacuated nearby settlements. Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 177 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I'm pretty sure competent militaries store their munitions in networks of dozens if not hundreds of earthen bunkers per site, specifically so shit like this can't happen.

264 kilotons is a fuckload of bombs.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 116 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Competent ones, I think they do.

Possible explanations:

  • yet another time, someone had set money aside for personal use, consequently the bunkers had doors made of plywood or roofing tin :)

  • arrival of drones was timed to match the loading / unloading of an ammunition train (that's when even competent militaries have to bring their stuff out)

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

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In their infinite wisdom they apparently stored a bunch of ammunitions out in the open.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It could hold that much, but according to Ukraine it was 105000 tons that exploded. Huge success though.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

That's like ten small nukes.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They may not have enough manpower to guard a more distributed site, especially if they’re afraid of internal groups seizing some of it.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

But you can save money by putting all of them in one place

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess we don't have an accurate source on what percentage of munitions his was.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would confidently assume 100% of it was munitions

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you think of the fill percentage, I think that's too optimistic, since they're in a war. There is constant demand. However, even 50% would be an extremely big amount, and relieve Ukrainians from a lot of pressure (last year, when a similar thing happened in Toropets, it had effects on the front within weeks). This time, from the videos I saw, there was enough to keep detonating for a long time.

Whatever the fill percentage and loss percentage, the site is closed for a long time - if something remains, it cannot be reached, it has to be examined and re-certified. But more likely, very little will remain.

In the coming days, satellite photos will tell what the situation is.

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 120 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Can we have links to more reputable, known news sites please? Never heard of that one. Here's the BBC.

Russia's military blamed the blast on ammunition which had detonated after the storage building caught fire due to a "violation of safety requirements".

Huh, I suppose maybe a drone-sized violation?

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Have seen euromaidanpress articles before, I think they're legit if not a bit sensationalist and obviously very pro-Ukraine.

And of course Russia blames a smoooooking incident. There's this one Russian guy who just smokes everywhere he shouldn't. Munition storages, aviation bases, flagship Moskva...

[–] figjam@midwest.social 27 points 4 days ago

Same guy who removes the safety rails around balconies

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[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago

This fucking rules. Eat poo, Shittin.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Must have been one hell of a fireworks show, good hunting finding the next one.

Slava Ukraini

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oh look they picked a new pope already

[–] gaael@lemm.ee 52 points 4 days ago (21 children)

I hace no idea how serious a blow this is. Can anyone provide any sense of magnitude for these 264 000 tons of munitions? Like how big a chunk of total ammunition stockpile woukd this be? How big is it compared to current manufacturing rate?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's not that easy to calculate as "munitions" can be anything from artillery shells to ballistic missiles.

If we assume it's mostly/all artillery shells, it's roughly one month of production. Russia currently produces 250.000 units of artillery shells per month if everything goes right. Russia uses roughly 10.000 of them per day, so it would be almost one months worth of combat.

If the stockpile contained more of glide bombs and ballistic missiles, the damage is even worse because they are significantly more expensive to produce.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But a unit of artillery shell doesn't weigh a ton.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

True, for some reason, I thought of units instead of tons lmao.

The damage is significantly worse then, probably months worth of production, maybe even a year. A standard shell weighs like what, 45kg?

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Kirzhach is on the far side of Moscow from Ukraine. Did the drones fly over Moscow to reach it, or did they take a longer route?

[–] Tum@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They may have been launched from within Russia.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 67 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, that’s the fun part of going to war with an adversary that was formerly a part of your empire: they have A LOT of people that can convincingly pass as your nationals - not to mention, there’s a small but meaningful percentage of your own citizens that are going to be sympathetic enough (due to family, social, and cultural connections) to that adversary that they’d be willing to act on their behalf for stuff like this.

[–] kooks_only@lemmy.ca 73 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is what the Americans who support a war with Canada don’t realize.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

As an American, it is utterly insane to me that there’s a good number of Americans that are just like “huh yeah I guess we’re gonna bomb Canada to make them do what we want”.

Then again, there’s a lot of utterly insane things happening these days.

A lot of my countrymen are gonna be finding out about Type II “sorry” if we try any military adventurism. And I’m sure Greenlanders would welcome an expeditionary force of Finns, considering their rich and storied experience (5-6.5:1 KD ratio; ~5:1 overall casualty ratio, without even considering the Continuation War).

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Type II “sorry”

Love this, and now that I see your username I find this quote has a Banksian quality to it.

Type I: I'm sorry
Type II: You'll be sorry

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

It is absolutely an Iain M Banks reference (and thank you for noticing <3). I identify as a GSV.

Type II (alternate): said cheekily, immediately after finding a loophole in the Geneva Convention

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (32 children)

Is there a particular reason I only ever see ukraine positive war stuff? And when I see negative ukraine war stuff it's coming out of trumps mouth?

No, I don't follow it religiously.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 49 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Basically? Wartime propaganda

Ukraine has been doing individual, small wins like this and they obviously toot their horn when it happens

But on a large scale, Ukraine has been slowly losing ground

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[–] TheLunatic@lemm.ee 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Russia's apparent war plan involves lots of slow attritional fighting, which isn't flashy and rarely results in a "Win". Not to mention we kind of do see the russian equivalent of this attack (Bombing hospitals, shopping malls and power infrastructure) reported on, it's just not considered a win to kill civilians in the west.

A view I agree with not only on the basis of valuing peace, life and the safety of noncombatants but also on the basis of it not being an effective way to win a war, e.g Korean war, Vietnam war, or the near leveling of London and large swaths of europe in Ww2. Strategic bombing of civilian assets just makes the people being bombed more likely to fight back and willing to endure higher casualties on the front lines.

Fun tidbit, this depot explosion was initially claimed to be "Negligence and mishandling of munitions" by the kremlin, which along with "Smoking accident" is basically shorthand for "Was hit by a drone but we don't want to let our people know that we aren't able to keep the war away from them".

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[–] xiii@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Russia had no significant gains over the last years with half a million casualties (KIA, MIA, lost limbs, war prisoners), the logistics is crumbling — they use donkeys, the economy and demographic are in the toilet but Russia is extremely good at spreading propaganda. So much so that the US admin is parroting it and putting pressure on Ukraine.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just to add, Ukrainians information is remarkably reliant and verifiable, the russian information is kremlin lies, so from the start the russian part is just not very interesing at all.

Also obviously they both talk about good things for them, classic war propaganda.

Add in that Ukraine is the (incredible) underdog and here we are.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago
[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Excellent news! Slava Ukraini!

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 36 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If Putler had any sense, he’d spend a fraction of his military budget on making nicotine patches available for free to his orcs. That would pay for itself in no time.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

I enjoy when the news headlines remind us they CAN be good

[–] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

Good chance Ukraine could hit the Kremlin if they wanted to. They have drones with the 500 mile range to pull it off, and Russian air defense has become a joke. The only thing that's been stopping them was US worries about actions like that causing escalation. Ukraine has had less and less reason to care what the US thinks of late.

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What, like, percent of stored munitions would this likely be? How impactful of a destruction is it?

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It's hard to find reliable data about that. The last good information is from 2022 and says that Russia has stored around 1 million tons of ammunition. That would mean Ukraine just wiped out 26% of everything Russia had.

However, since it is very likely that Russia has produced a lot more since the war began, it's hard to tell how much they actually lost today.

The only other number I could find was one that says that each day Russia uses around 26000 rounds of ammunition (artillery).

And since I'm a lazy fuck that is already lying in bed and I only have my smartphone here, I'll let AI do the estimates and calculations.

Under the premise that most things in that depot was artillery ammo, and we roughly know the weight of a round and as said how much they use per day we can estimate they burn through 1218 tons of ammunition per day.

That would mean Ukraine just destroyed around 220 days of ammunition.

But as said, that's just a wild guess based on some very vague numbers that I don't have double checked now.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

I hope the shrapnel flew everywhere. Kudos to Ukrainian drone pilots. Fuck the Muscovites and their foreign supporters.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 days ago

Thank you for this glorious news! I love it!

[–] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If Russia truly has fucked its entire workforce into conscription, they may have to pull forces off the frontlines in order to manufacture replacements for lost equipment and munitions.

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