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[–] prof@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't necessarily like a few takes in the comments here.

Vibes wise the Obsidian team seems to be great and they don't seem to have shown any reason why I should distrust them. I love FOSS but gifting others my work doesn't put food on my table, so in that sense they need to have a lucrative business model which they seem to have established.

I could use SyncThing, Git or other solutions to do synchronisation between my devices but I choose to buy their Sync offer, since I want to support them (they also have EU servers, which need to be GDPR compliant by law afaik).

The closest comparison I could make is NextCloud. NextCloud open sources their software, but they sell convenience. Sure, you could self host it, but paying them to do so for you may be more attractive. In comparison Obsidian is not really complicated to set up or maintain. It's literally just a MD-editor. So the only convenient thing to sell is synchronisation if you don't want to put a price tag on the software.

If they open source all their code, some tech wizard will implement a self hosted obsidian sync server with the same convenience as theirs in a day, and the company will lose their revenue stream.

We've all been burned by tech bros in one way or another, but I think it's ok for people to profit off of their IP. And they seem to be doing so with a positive vision. Feel free to let me eat my words if they ever go rogue, but that's my 2 cents.

[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I tried Obsidian, but it didn’t give me anything extra on top of using Helix with Marksman, dprint and git. 1% the ram usage of obsidian, versioning, auto-formatting, link auto-complete, page pickers/traversing, global search, etc. there’s literally no reason to use more electron bloatware.

I basically use Markdown files for anything i would’ve done in Word, and python streamlit + pandas + csv files for anything done in Excel (and capable of handling millions of rows more performantly)

[–] fxdave@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's interesting that a closed-source app has good reputation among FOSS enthusiasts. Surely they are not a Microsoft or Apple, but still who controls your computer, you or them?

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It stores your data in plaintext, and simply uses the program to parse special formatting characters. There are no attempts at obfuscation or encryption, and it doesn’t lock you into a walled garden that refuses to play nice with other programs. The program itself is closed-source, but anyone could write an open source version to parse the same info… There just hasn’t been a good reason to do so. Even if Obsidian as a company and program ceases to exist overnight, your data is still safe on your machine and can be read by anyone who cares enough to dig into the file. Hell, you can even open it as the plaintext file and dig through it manually.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just cant wrap my head around why they're willing to go so far to gain good will from people by having such a generous free tier, but somehow licensing the code under a FOSS license is out of the question??

Why not just go all the way and make sure everyone who cares about reading the souce could also give you free contributions?

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yep and the Android app is full of small things to improve, for sure someone would put in contributions for free

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s always been free for me using Mobius Sync…

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not the point here. Using it in a commercial environment for free was a violation of the terms, now it's not anymore.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah got it, thanks for the clarification.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now that it's free, are its users the product?

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

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