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This is what drives me crazy.

Ok, the president is immune, the people that execute his orders are not.

If the courts started holding people under the president accountable for their actions there would be a change in the wind.

Yes, for the defeatists, holding those people accountable is complex and the president would just pardon them but, it would start a real process of the branches of government holding each other accountable.

Technically they made themselves the arbiters of what constituents official duties of the president.

Buys a house next to an airport, complains about aircraft noise.

Buys a house next to a night club, complains about loud music at night.

Gives the President full immunity because it’s the [R]ight thing to do, complains when he stops listening to them.

It’s all the same attitude from shitty people.

Actually prosecuting a sitting president was always nearly impossible. The immunity thing has to do with what happens after the president is no longer in office, doesn't it? Also, he only has absolute immunity for official acts. So then the question is what constitutes an official act.

And realistically the Supreme Court will eventually reverse itself, assuming that the democracy somewhat survives another decade, which is a good question. Because their ruling about absolute immunity just made no sense. But even if you think it did make sense, there are so many cases that have to go to court to be resolved. If the courts rule against a specific action and the president reads the court order and then does the bad action anyway, does it count as official? I think we can argue that it doesn't, because the courts specifically clarified that it's not allowed. But the president's attorneys would argue the opposite. So then it has to go back to the Supreme Court.

Assuming Trump stays in good health long enough to leave the White House, I think it's unavoidable that the above situation will occur.

Dont forget the interpretive dance!

One of the Supreme Court judges will go to Trump's house and beat the crap out of him

They bark all they want but they can't bite. They need the executive to enforce their decisions. Ain't happening. Thanks Citizens United. Oh, wait, they decided that.

Is that a real official communication from the White House?

It's more cynical realism.

What actual consequences has Trump ever faced?

How has he reacted to every judicial order telling him he can;t do something?

I'll be thrilled to see something actually stick to him,, but I'm losing faith that anyone can actually make that happen.

but… this is basically the first time

we can applaud their movement to rationality and still look back at all the horrible things they did to pave the way here

are you fucking high??

trump literally reneged on sending this dude to a concentration camp by mistake and then bragged about it

Do you have a reference for the Saturday night thing? Or are you referring to the Supreme Court’s order? I couldn’t find anything about Congress unless I misunderstood

Well, it's not too late yet, anyway - but we're damned close.

Anything is better than nothing, but when I get a pizza party instead of a raise, it still feels like it could be better. I guess give them yet another chance to show something? How many has it been now?

Don’t forget the clutching pearls.

Yeah but this presupposes that Trump can read.

Ignoring the court is a dereliction of his duty as president, so he would not be immune from contempt if the supreme Court criminally charged him, per their own parameters when they granted him partial immunity.