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Nearly 300 academics have applied to a French university’s offer to take in US-based researchers rattled by the American government’s crackdown on academia, as a former French president called for the creation of a “scientific refugee” status for academics in peril.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

operation file attachment, since we're in the 21st century

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I would have recommended stapler, but that works as well

[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was hoping a European country would do this but it also does not boad well for how unstable America is.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s over already. It’s going to take decades to come back from this, if at all since the reputation is shaken at the core, and that is very difficult to rebuild.

The funding cuts and uncertainty and stifling is speech is shocking, but this is already affecting young scientists. There are cuts to summer research stipends, grant pausing means no work for some researchers. It’s the future that will really hurt when we don’t have those scientists since they either didn’t pursue science or went to other countries.

America has held a very central seat of science for quite some time, but that’s done. Europe is going to replace is—and already is. It’s a shame too since American higher Ed is structurally setup to be much more agile in how it pursues inquiry.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

without systemic change to ensure this doesn’t happen again, the world is done with simple trust of america… it’ll take decades and change that im almost certain america is incapable of… or other guarantees

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

kinda was bad before too, because they have to frame grant applications in a way that doesnt point to something climate change or someone as the sole cause of the reason they are researching. alot of phds left thier fields over having to do grant writing more than what they became a PHD for.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Brain drain.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

if only they had options for bs/ms degree holder in stems. the job market was pretty poor before trump, and its only getting worst under him.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I feel like I'm fucked because I'm an engineer and not a scientist

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

engineer might be able to find work in other countries? which kind are you?

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

interesting, seems chemical does have a niche that is still useful. the chem professors when i was in Community dint seem like they were going anywhere with thier fields so people really cant guage the difficulty and jobs of the field, they were content enough to teach it, but thier expectations were kinda high for this school. Only one i heard was a researcher at a university, but he was only a lab instructor.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There's a very high chance you might find work in the Netherlands. And it's even better since it's a really nice country and practically everyone speaks English. Germany is a bit rougher if you don't speak the language, especially in non-tech related fields.

[–] gt5@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a visa you can get in the uk which I’m considering for bs/ms holders within the past 5 years from specific schools that I’m seriously considering. The problem is it’s only for 2 years (3 with a phd)

[–] Generic_Idiot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Just get over and figure out how to stay while there?

Or marry and UK person. Even just pay for a marriage of convenience.

Get out. Ship is sinking.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 17 points 1 week ago

Well done France!

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

I recall people threatening to move to Canada during the first Trump elections. You know it’s bad when people are actually trying to get to France.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

Must be nice.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I applied, wasn’t accepted ☹️ they’re looking for PhD level, not BS/MS

[–] feiras@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Big France W!