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Yeah, we're fucked if this is the Democrats solution to fixing housing.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Have they outlawed short term rentals yet?

What about foreign ownership of housing? Is that prohibited yet?

Any incentives to convert empty office properties to housing?

What about an empty residential property tax/fine? Have they started doing that yet?

How about outlawing strip malls that don’t have at least one story of housing on top? Any state incentives for mixed use development?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

Given that most of the delay in building more/denser housing in California is due to NIMBYs fearing a drop in property values..

..what’s to stop them from calling the cops on people living out of their cars on the street in front of their house?

This entire proposal is beyond stupid, and is one of the underlying causes of the rise in right-wing populism all over the US.

What the Government should do is use the threat of Eminent Domain and buy out a ~dozen houses in a certain block, tear them down and build ~100 affordable apartments for families (i.e. 3+ bedroom, 2+ bathrooms) in their place - and make them available to lower-and middle income families on a rent-to-own basis.

If neighbouring plots complain, threaten them with Eminent Domain also, and continue on until the entirety of the unhoused population is accounted for.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

You can be a foreign billionaire and own a highrise of luxury apts that are all sold for daily rates for tourists in order to make a profit.

But the students... Now that you can't afford housing... Let's make it legal to sleep in cars!

God can you imagine the college parking lot full of 18-20 year olds sleeping in their cars instead of dorms or apartments?? Like burning man but without the vibes.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Speaking for san francisco:

No

No

Yes, in March last year we passed a proposition exempting them from real estate transfer taxes

Yes, there's a vacancy tax, but there's a decent amount of exemptions so it only effects large multi unit buildings

No, but there aren't really any strip malls in the city

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How about banning single family home construction within cities? All those lovely one and two family houses in SF should become apartment buildings for example

edit also ban private equity/hedge funds from real estate

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

...

I don't know "how bad" it is. but

I know a few people who would 100% move into thier car on campus, either because they are in between homes or it's thier biggest liability.

Its not even a Uni, just community.

but even in the sticks, the housing crunch is hitting us.

Homes for sale but priced way out of what anyone can actually afford.

This is horrible its come to these sorts of things, but,

when living out of your car is a reality, honestly moving to make it safer for students is good, I think.

My college has a food bank and free showers/toiletries already.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Surely this isn't a serious Proposal... seems more like a Modest one.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And when they get hungry, they can eat the cars.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not their solution to fix housing. This is doing whatever they can to prevent more people from slipping farther into full-blown homeless. Once you get to that point, statistically you’re not coming back from it, and it becomes incredibly expensive for taxpayers too. So yeah, allowing car camping should be in the table.

The situation is so very bad.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had to live in my car for a couple of months when I was a university student in the late 1970s. I lost my housing because the landlord died and his kids wanted to sell, so they evicted us all. It was well into the term and I couldn't find alternative accommodation on short notice.

This is not a new problem. At least someone let me use one of their parking spaces so I was on private property at night. Eventually I found another house-share and got indoors.

My theme music for that period in my life is Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out.

I suspect the bill is to provide the students with legal cover so they won't be harassed by the cops. Many cities make it illegal to sleep in cars now.

[–] dovah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry to hear about your crappy situation. If you had a fixed lease, they cannot evict you until the lease runs out.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

They'll do anything except regulate the folks hoarding all the property for passive income.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What do you mean let them?

Edit: its not about letting them, its about budgeting to have on-campus spots specifically for this purpose.

But if the campus has a 24/7 gym, then I dont see why they'd need money allocated for this.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

We could fix this in one go, but that means that rich hoarding assholes become a little richer less fast, so instead of that, we just promote homelessness for students, isn't that a great solution coming from the fucking richest third world dictatorship in the world?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Short-term it's better than nothing but long-term they need to tell the NIMBY fucks to eat shit already. Sorry your view is getting blocked by a high rise condo or apartment but it's that or you get to share your sidewalk with a bunch of homeless people.