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My jellyfin collection has finally become large enough that I have been able to cancel all my streaming services. My issue now is that I want to get rid of my Roku's that are hooked up to each TV.

Is there a good alternative? It MUST be family approved, meaning:

  1. It is not visible (no desktop/laptop hooked up)
  2. It is low power
  3. It has a simple remote control
  4. It supports Jellyfin
  5. It is relatively cheap (< $150)

I am sure I could build something out of a raspberry pi, but:

  1. I don't need another project I have to fiddle with
  2. It MUST support new codecs (h.265/AC1/aac/...) as I want direct play from my server
  3. If it stutters/buffers once, it goes into the trash!

I've generally been mostly happy with my Roku, and my pi.hole blocks most of their analytics, but last week, I pressed the home button on my Roku and it started play a video add with audio. Completely unacceptable (That has happened twice in the last week). And in general, the more of this crap I can get out of my life the better!

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[–] TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you're happy with the Roku hardware and you're going to cancel all your other streaming services, why not just firewall block the Roku from reaching out of your local network?

If you do that, Jellyfin will still work fine, and you won't have the ability to get posted ads or anything else from the Roku, so it'll just become a Jellyfin box.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've taken this approach, sometimes these boxes will act up when they can't phone home. Definitely worth trying though.

[–] TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Worth that at least before you start looking at different hardware.

Otherwise, it's the same thing if you have a smart TV, download the Jellyfin app, and then just completely stop it from being able to connect anywhere else.

[–] nix98@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you tried it with a Roku? My pi.hole blocks most things, but I haven't yet tried to completely block it from the Internet. In the past, I've had to allow some domains through my pi.hole or things would be completely broken, but that hasn't happened in a while...

I suppose I'd have to occasionally unblock it to get updates to the jellyfin app, which is doable.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

AppleTV connected via Ethernet.

You’re chasing a unicorn with your requirements.

[–] gray@pawb.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This ^

Simple, no ads, and handles HDR super well

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

And the Ethernet port is actually gigabit.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

We have a couple Apple TVs. As much as I dislike the walled garden, they are very good for what they are.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

For my parents, I got a $150 N100 mini PC (tiny little thing), installed Bazzite, installed Jellyfin, and got the Pepper Jobs W10 Gyro remote. You have to configure Jellyfin to know it’s running on a TV and to accept keyboard input (the remote acts like a keyboard), but then everything works great. It’s a little over your budget, with the added remote.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Excellent - thanks for the remote recommendation, it's one thing I've been struggling to find.

Not sure I like the gyro idea - I had a gyro presentation mouse in the past. Worked well, but how do your parents like the gyro element?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

They don’t use it unless my dad is watching a perfectly legal sports stream in the browser. It works really well though. I have 3 of those remotes, cause I love them.

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[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If you don't want ads creeping in everywhere, the only prebuilt option is appletv. otherwise you have to build it yourself :/

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[–] bigb@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I use the ONN 4K Pro and the ProjectIvy launcher. You can completely hide the standard Android TV OS launcher and its ads. Button Mapper is another good app to have on Android boxes. The remote is full of app-specific buttons that I've either disabled or remapped to alternative apps

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.homebutton

I have no idea which codecs are supported.

[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

This is my exact setup. The upgrade from the smart TV was night and day. Apps load instantly and Jellyfin works great. Most importantly the remote is easy to use and can control the TV.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I second this setup.

I have 3 ONN sticks and they do the job. Great for the price. Just sideload Kodi, new launcher, remap buttons.

I even paid for button mapper. Totally worth it.

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[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I second the AppleTV recommendation based on your disgust with the Roku UI ads, I am completely on your side there, but my similar search has bought me to AppleTV.

I currently run Amazon Fire Sticks which also have UI ads but my pihole is catching most of them and it’s dirt cheap with h.265 support. Plus it runs various hacked apps like TVMob, Cinema, and Cyberflix. That’s what keeps me from moving to an AppleTV or an n100 box already.

[–] nix98@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

How good is Jellyfin on AppleTV? My understanding was the app was a bit lacking...

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Swiftfin is the official Apple TV jellyfin app. Swiftfin is great on iOS, but hasn’t been updated on Apple TV for a while. It also lacks a lot of polish and features but it is being worked on. There should be an update soon.

I’ve been using infuse on Apple TV. Infuse isn’t open source and needs a subscription to watch most 4k hdr content. I think it’s worth it if Swiftfin gets an update soon.

Apple TV is definitely a better experience compared to Samsung and Android. Apps are nicer and there isn’t any ads, privacy controls and privacy statements are much better. Recommended content can also be disabled and only shows when your hovering over the relevant app.

[–] gray@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Use SwiftFin app instead on Apple TV, but better than the Jellyfin app.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I haven’t made the leap yet due to the jailbreak apps but I’ve seen read that Jellyfin is decent on AppleTV, about as good as anywhere else. Probably not as polished as you’d expect on AppleTV but serviceable. I’ll update if I end up buying one!

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[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any guide you recommend for tvmob, cinema, and cyberflix?

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This worked best for me for Linux ISOs on my fire stick: https://www.firesticktricks.com/jailbreak-fire-stick.html

Edited to un-embed, thanks u/lka1988

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why did you embed the link? Just paste the link directly into your comment.

https://www.firesticktricks.com/jailbreak-fire-stick.html

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I use Kodi with the jellyfin plugin, but I can’t recommend that for ‘normies’ because the interface is not simple, and I still have glitches with it.

I’m also looking for a solution like yours, but wanted you to have that feedback.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know how Kodi still goes on for this long. I messed around with it over a decade ago and had all the same issues back then.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, it's free and it does work, so I won't complain, but I wouldn't push this on any but my most technical friends.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Technical friends are the best friends.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Some people want local serverless playback.

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[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing to add, but also interested in this same scenario. I could only think of the Nvidia Shield.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nvidia shield is less user friendly than Roku I think

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

And it runs Google services, and it costs a fortune, and it hasn't seen a refresh in 6 years.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And has reliability issues, I got one for my mom so she could use my Plex server, it died just outside of warranty. She didn't use it often so it wasn't used and abused, just stopped outputting video one day.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Nvidia Shield. The regular version is $150 US and from what I understand it gives flawless playback. I have the pro version which is more powerful, but that's specifically for running games.

It's Android TV OS, so app selection is great. You can load Smart Tube Next on there to get YouTube without ads, and there's a very solid Jellyfin app. You can also use Kodi for local direct playback. Remote is perfectly functional, and you can use an app to rebind most of the keys.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm currently using a raspberry pi 5 flashed with Konstakang's Android TV image, it works pretty flawlessly and takes less than an hour to set up, assuming you have the APKs of everything you want to install. You don't need to mess around with Google play services because most TV android apps are also designed to run on firesticks which don't have it.

The one issue I have encountered is that the Jellyfin client very occasionally won't play some 4k HDR media in the default player (all my 1080p stuff works fine) so I also installed MPV and I turn on alternative player in the Jellyfin settings in the rare case something doesn't work.

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[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

LibreELEC on an old chromebook!

[–] Chef6652@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Way over-budget for your taste I guess but I still wanted to make a note here for representation sake. Look into the brand Zidoo. I have Zidoo Z9X 8K, it's the best client I could dream of! ~250$

Cons:

  • Android based (outdated AF but still)
  • Maybe not so secure (http server always on while the device is on, atm)

Pros:

  • Very good support of Dolby Vision, 4K (8K maybe?)
  • Very pretty, both hardware and software very polished IMO
  • The remote is glorious, tactile with backlight
  • Lots of other cool things
  • Very snappy Android experience
  • it just works™
  • The audio downmixing works great, compared to the Google TV which was very bad
  • First party Jellyfin support among others
[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

I use Chromecast with android TV, it's about perfect with jellyfin, and if I were to domit again I'd probably spend the little extra for the 4k model even though my TV is 1080p (more horsepower). You can run a different homescreen to somewhat degoogle it.

Probably not what you're looking for given what you've lined up here, but I live and breathe with it every day and it's great, and as an added benefit you can cast from a lot of services or websites as well.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My plan is to use the $20 Onn (Walmart store-brand) Android TV box LTT recommended as being eminently jailbreakable about a year ago, but I haven't actually gotten around to hooking it up yet so I can't authoritatively endorse it.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Been using Onn boxes for years and absolutely love them. They are about as pure android TV as you can get. I would definitely recommend the 50$ pro version over the 20$ original though.

[–] wckring@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's an option, the Xiaomi mi box it's a cheap android TV device that plays probably everything. Costs around 60 euro in eu. If not you coul always go for Google TV with a custom launcher to block stock android launcher ads.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Google TV forces its own launcher on top after every goddamn update. They're becoming really obnoxious.

[–] enemenemu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. If you do not want stuttering, use a graphics card. Higher energy consumption but you can play everything
[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

If they have a 5th gen or newer Intel CPU, Quicksync will work excellently for transcoding. No discrete GPU needed.

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