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Americans sure enjoyed sitting on their hands during the 2024 presidential election when they could’ve prevented all of this…
I really hate this type of rhetoric, not dissimilar to the cringe af "vote blue no matter who". It really ignores the decades long malicious attack on american consciousness itself, on truth and history. The American people are disenfranchised from political thought and economic action by design. Im not sure how much voting in america even matters at this point, the dnc capitulated HARD to fascists during the election, as is their historical prerogative (to defend capital interest), blaming the citizens just seems meaningless at this point. At a certain point you have to admit this is just what liberal democracy degenerates to every time.
Maybe think about implementing proportional representation if you hate 2 big parties so much. Kamala Harris is leagues of Donald Trump and you’re trolling if you think they’re the same…
Nobody said they are the same, and you're trolling if you think they did. The above is spot on correct.
The comment encourages not voting with "vote blue no matter who"
That’s Implying they think both parties are “just as bad”
It’s the worst take anarchists have. You use every tool in the box not completely abandoned an important one such as voting ceding all ground to maga candidates playing right into the hands of Trump.
You can demand for electoral reform, read independent journalism, protest, support unions, join cooperatives and only buy from companies that don’t contribute to political parties just as a few listed examples.
VBNMW is cringe to a whole lot more people than just "anarchists". It doesn't just speak to voter participation, it speaks to a sense of entitlement that Democratic politicians have. It reminds me of Hillary's "It's her turn" slogan.
Democrats are, in almost every situation, the better choice. Political junkies know that, but most people aren't political junkies. We criticize the Democratic sense of entitlement because we know how it comes off to regular voters. It's political malpractice to constantly display that kind of entitlement. That slogan needs to die.
First-past-the-post is litterally the problem you have with American democracy, it’s intentionally designed to only work for 2 competitors in an election race.
You’re not going to have a better democrat party unless you force them to face actual competition with elections under the single-transferable vote they would quickly improve their act facing small parties and independents winning seats. Portland uses this system already for their elections.
Americans need to stop accepting just 2 choices when they deserve more and better.
Absolutely true and entirely useless on a national scale right now. FPTP is what we have and it's the system in which we must elect candidates who will move us to a better system. Primaries are where the game has to be played right now, and for that we need to kill the notion that loyal Democrats shouldn't criticize sitting Democrats.
Portland is not politically typical. It can be a model, but it has to be a model for political culture before it can be a model for how to enact a better voting system.
While FPTP is trash, that system is kinda trash, too: if a candidate would beat all others 1-on-1 (Condorcet winner), then should that candidate win? Not according to single transferable vote/instant run-off.
Example
Who wins according to instant run-off? C. Who wins against every opponent 1-on-1? B.
Other methods also fail.
There are better methods: this nice table compares voting methods by a wide range of properties.
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Both sides are le same. I am very smart