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Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

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[–] snoopy@peculiar.florist 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@Cowbee
You don't need an account to see what those post are about. You know why you can't interact with them. You can see them.

No, sorry, i'm not the right person. I'm not an admin but an moderator. I don't belong to the trial section of the mod team, i don't take position.

Our vote are public, anyone can see them. For example on mbin. That's when i decided to sent that screenshot because you were defending hexbear anywhere.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, I know I can't interact with MeanwhileOnGrad on Lemmy.ml because it's blocked, and I can't on Hexbear because sh.itjust.works is blocked. I don't really care for those instances where stalkers post out of context screenshots in order to drum up hate against Communists, or where the admin peddles conspiracy theories about foreign nations pushing "transgender ideology" to radicalize youths against the US.

I tend to defend Hexbear because more often than not I see lies told about it from people who were correctly banned and lied about the reason for banning, or from anticommunists. I make it a point to study history and read Marx and Marxist theory, so when I see fabrications, I try to point them out.

For reference, I don't think many people would want to go along with whatever you want them to if you try to reveal information normally kept private. I don't really care about upvotes or downvotes, or who knows about them, but as a rule of thumb it isn't pleasant to have people try to "expose" you and force an apology, no matter what it is.

[–] snoopy@peculiar.florist 1 points 3 weeks ago

@Cowbee
I wasn't talking about opening it why your account. As i said, you don't need to interact with your account, you have a web browser.

you are right to defend your opinion but on the other hand there is thing that you can't defend as those post i sent. So our vote quickly switched in defavour of hexbear. We were against defederation with hexbear firstly. And you didn't question that.

Yes Lemmy dev designed vote of Lemmy that way. Any admin can see vote so they can check if there was any brigaging. I can't. There was a raiding and a massive amount of upvote, downvote, so that's when we check them up.

There are melery hidden but visible anywhere on the fediverse. On mbin, you can see upvote. You can see them on iceshrimp. And if you mount your own server, you can see everything.

Vote system has its pro and cons. In some case it allows us to block spam, push a good post. Other case it transform the whole thing as a stadium and escalate quickly.

I'm against voting system because it encourage a social pressure. I would completly remove them as beehaw do.

The idea of voting is promoting the most interesting/funny comment promote a mindset. And it doen't tell anything about its content.

I prefer a tag system that tell us i'm talking about vegetable or scientific study. Then other tags as "good tips" "complete newpaper" "hilarous" "sad" "thank you !"

Indeed, it's not alway pleasent seing ourselve in a mirror for anyone me included. That's when you decide what is the best action.

Staying silent because you know it can be detrimentale, because you went there too. Because you know that he/she would deny. Because he/she will react badly and you need to protect yourself. Because it is not the right time and later they will ready.

Or saying the truth. I exposed you because it was a very serious issue and I wanted you to question your values. I wanted you to change, otherwise i wouldn't write to you again.

I'm pretty sure you didn't see that way, i'm a pest, aren't i ? 😊 It was my own way to help you a little and then hexbear.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Our vote are public, anyone can see them.

Yeah, but those that go and look to confront users are absolute losers. And I'd love mbin to fail for that "feature"

[–] snoopy@peculiar.florist 1 points 3 weeks ago

@thoro
That's the same principle as in any election. We check out your identity, make sure you didn't vote twice, that you live there. That's the core of the democracy system : transparency.

If i sum up, you want no one to check who backed those posts. Or find out a hexbear alt/supporter account as this one.

The best way is to completly remove the voting system from Lemmy because if vote aren't public, most admin/mod team will remove them.