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[โ€“] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"genuinely" herein lies the key. Interesting to pick Jedi as an example because I think we can agree that people who out that on a census or whatever typically have their tongue firmly in cheek. Wicca probably sits somewhere on a spectrum between that and the major religions. You'd be mad naive to assume that everyone holds beliefs exactly as stated. My papi was a priest and we're pretty sure never believed in god. L Ron Hubbard himself was for sure was grifting FFS. Add to that and most religions can't even agree what authentic means for their community and LOL

[โ€“] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for agreeing with and emphasizing my points! I thought using Jedi to elaborate the universality of my statement might be too subtle, so I'm glad you caught it.

But your last point about internal conflicts over authenticity within a religion did make me reconsider the necessity of "genuine" belief. Since spirituality is so personally definable, I guess all that is really necessary is for a person to claim the title. Technically, your papi was a priest despite a lack of a genuine belief.

We could (and people have) argue the requirements and definitions until we are blue in the face, but trying to get a working definition is like trying to nail jelly to the wall.