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I have said before I will eat both of my socks if a SpaceX rocket and ship fly humans to the moon and safely return by 2030.
I will also eat both of my socks if a two bit mob boss turned fascist nationalizes any significant corporate or industrial anything.
Fascists don't outright nationalize shit, because if they did, the entire oligarch class that is a huge part of their support base would turn on them instantly.
Fascists make deals with, facilitate, get kick backs from corporate oligarchs.
They essentially never seize their assets outright, because that would undermine the entire capitalist system that the corpos rely on, and support fascists so that they will keep getting tax breaks and grants and other government subsidies.
You’re almost certainly right, but since the situation is already off the rails, I just figured I’d throw nationalization out there for laughs.
Find me a fascist movement/party/figure that's formally controlled a state for more than 20 years, that's outlasted its big special leader boy... you know, a 'competent' one.
Mussolini's lasted 21 years, and he was waaaay younger than Trump when he started.
... Are you going to call Mussolini 'competent'?
Fascists are definitionally incompetent and irrational, they are literally anti-Truth with a capital T, the philosophical, as close to objective and reasonable 'truth' we can get.
But, they are also very well definable by understanding that if they fuck with the money too hard, the money will fuck them back.