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[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I agree, but unfortunately it's a reality of a capitalist society that large private companies have a lot of the wealth, and so people set themselves up for retirement by owning a very tiny part of those companies.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Our retirement plans didn't used to be tied to the stock market. So clearly there's a way to have retirement plans that don't tie the entire middle class to the success of every large corporation.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Well, there's the Defined Benefit pension, however typically these pension funds then become institutional investors who seek to own shares in... you guessed it - stocks.

At least those institutional investors are at least somewhat responsive to public pressure campaigns, as the state/local comptrollers are a politically appointed position.

When you give your money to a 401k, the fund manager gets all the voting rights on the corporate board and is generally only accountable to "A reasonable rate of return"