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[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 74 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

It was a "alternatives to American apps/sites" on Reddit that got me here

[–] PNWKid@lemm.ee 38 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Just got so sick of reddits smarminess. It’s also just astroturfed corporate BS at this point anyway.

I’ve been boycotting Amazon for over a year (and quite frankly won’t ever stop), won’t shop at Target and won’t visit super corporatized social media.

Reddit has proven time and time again they’re just a whipping boy for corporate interests.

[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I knew it was bad but this last round of suppression was the final straw.

[–] Cephiroth@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Are you me from the future? This is literally my mindset right now. Just started boycotting Amazon, Target, etc.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 11 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

just a heads up, the instance you're on is pretty controversial.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 16 hours ago

very good way to put it

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

I thought the whole point of Lemmy was that it didn't matter what instance you joined. Can I move my account, or do I need to make a new one on a new instance?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 14 hours ago

So, the no matter what instance thing isn't really true. Moderation is different per instance, mods can remove comments locally. Account migration is planned, but not there yet.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well it doesn't, but that instance has a... reputation... So some people might have that entire instance blocked. You'd have to create a new account elsewhere to move over

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Every instance has a reputation. A lot of .ml posters think that .world posters are libs and crypto fascists(if they distinguish between the two). And some folks accuse feddit.nl users of being... Well... Dutch.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And some folks accuse feddit.nl users of being... Well... Dutch.

I suppose they're not wrong. But I hope I'm not blocked by some people for it

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Likely only Austin Powers father.

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[–] Rawdogthatexe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

Does shitjustworks have a rep? So far so chill, I don't think I've heard any controversy about this one.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lol nahhh .ml says we're all CIA shills and .world is a CIA front full of bots! Lmao

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't heard that one before, hallucinating again?

You do seem more obsessed with people to your left than anyone to your right, not really beating the crypto fascist allegations

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

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I could have sworn I had a screenshot of it, but I'm still looking. But please enjoy this other one I grabbed of .world and .ee users being called bots in the meantime

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago

The reason it doesn't matter is because they all interoperate, unless one of them is a problem and needs to be cut off. Yours isn't the worse but some people do have a negative opinion of it. If anyone decides to de-federate you won't be able to see posts from there but this probably doesn't matter a whole lot unless the instance you are on is a total pariah

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

people peer pressuring over instances can be disregarded, they're almost always shit-stirring

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It's seriously getting old at this point. I've noticed there's been an uptick in hostility towards lemmy.ml over the past year. I can only assume it's related to the reddit migration. Unfortunately I only forsee it getting worse as more people migrate over.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 hours ago

At a certain point it becomes harassment and should be moderated accordingly. Something that we're going to need to do as we grow in order to be a functional social spaces that harassment needs to be something you get banned for because a lot of the negative experience people have on the corporate crap is because of widespread normalized harassment. If an instance isn't so bad it gets defederated users probably shouldn't be given shit for merely using it

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Have you considered that people just generally don't like supporting the authoritarianism that plagues China, Russia and NK

It's the authoritarian part of being a Tankie that a lot of us hate

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There's a difference between support and pointing out blatant US propaganda. Like I said above, many people across the fediverse don't get the nuance of being critical of US narratives does not equal supporting the regimes that are on the recieving end of that propaganda. If you really spent any amount of time on .ml you'd see there is plenty of criticism of Russia/China, just not to the extent where everyone unquestioningly takes any criticism by US sources at face value.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did you open the link at all? That user literally just said that Drump would be the dumbest president ever, even dumber than NK dictators and caught a 14 day ban from /c/memes for it. That is not ban worthy whatsoever, but on .ml it is for the sole reason of it speaks ill of NK.

There's plenty more on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works but ironically .ml blocks you from seeing it, so you'll need to use this roundabout link instead http://lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Some instances just have higher standards than you and don't tolerate ableist insults

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lol yea calling Drump and dictators dumb is definitely abelist/s LMAO

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 hours ago

yes, we get it, you're extremely edgy

[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I got permabanned from politics on shitjustworks for calling out the mod for being a hypocrite, so 14 days ain't so bad in comparison. Gonna go see what rule 1 over there is tho.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

LPT: Maybe don't start comments with "Go fuck yourself", people might take you more seriously or be more receptive.
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[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Look at the preceding conversation, instead of cherry picking a comment maybe 🤷‍♂️ dude was already handing out temp bans in the thread for anyone that disagreed with him stating they're trolls, then he's the one trolling. Got called out, couldn't handle it.

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 6 hours ago

Theres a community about ml drama "meanwhileongrad" thats blocked from ml so youd never see it

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yeah it doesn't matter - don't listen to drama fiends. .ml is fine. Lots of people decry it as being a tankie instance. The whole point of federation is you aren't limited to the content on your instance - just by which instances yours is federated with.

If people or your instance bother you, make another account. Otherwise, just ignore the haters

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works or actually because you're on .ml, they block that comm instance wide

So you'll need to see it through another instance, like so lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

You get banned for dissent against Russia or China or even NK on .ml comms

[–] PNWKid@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is lemm.ee chill or should I be making a new account?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago

Oh yeah, lemm.ee is great.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Controversial? How come? I’m new to the Fediverse so I’d love to learn as much as I can. 🙂

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago

I explained a bit here: https://lemm.ee/post/58018253/18825295

But I'll go into more detail : )

lemmy.ml is the instance run by the lemmy developers, who are tankies. Tankies are people who support authoritarian regeims such as the soviet union, or north korea.

As such, they sometimes remove anti-china or pro-ukraine posts/comments.

They also sometimes bridgade threads.

As an example, check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 14 hours ago

Lemmy.ml is very pro Russia/pro communism

[–] espressdelivery@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It has some censorship problems, the devs (who run the instance) are tankies, and pro-russia/china

[–] espressdelivery@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Alright where next? I’m not invested in this space

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

lemm.ee, the instance you are on, is fine. In fact, the admins are great people.

[–] espressdelivery@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I’m so sorry but you have to spell this out to me

What is the difference between lemmy and lem.ee? And I suppose I should ask “where am I?”

Is this like people individually hosting their own reddits?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

You can read this, hopefully it will help: https://lemm.ee/post/54947321/18643464

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 2 points 6 hours ago

Its ppl copying the content on each others servers and all hosting frontends/backends that serve the same content. The site is where your content is hosted, like if you upload a pic its to that instance and based on their upload rules for size. I think lemm.ee has like a 50mb limit while some have much higher limits. All of your posts/comments originate from your site and then get coppied to any site that hasnt blocked it and has communicated with it before. (Me subscribing to a lemmy.world community from my instance would count as communicating so they would federate and posts from that community and other communiteis on that instance would show up on mine in the future)

Like if you hosted a site that was an exact clone of mine that copied or linked content over everytime it was posted to match the other.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

So, lemm.ee is a lemmy instance, its like its own mini-reddit. lemmy.world is another instance. You can follow communities accross instances though.

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry about the other posters trying to dissuade you from lemmy.ml. It's a very chill instance. It gets flack because it is run by and has a majority leftist base, but that shouldn't be an issue if you consider yourself a progressive. The "tankie" slurs are frankly b.s. and disingenuous. I wouldn't call the sub "pro-Russia/China" by any means, the users are anti-imperialist and realistic in the nature of US propaganda depicting other states as bogeymen. Just because you question the mainstream US-centric narrative doesn't mean you're shilling for China/Russia etc. There's a lot of liberals and centrists, that despite their progressive sentiments they may hold, are still very beholden to the narrative of American exceptionalism in a lot of ways.

[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Guessing it's coming from shitjustworks people. Politics mod over there doesn't like anyone pointing out the Dems weak ass "resistance" even if you are lauding another Dem(Rep Green) at the same time lol.

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago

Wherever it stems from it's getting annoying to deal with the influx of "enlightened centrists" that have the idea that anyone left of Biden/Harris is a secret Russian/Chinese disinfo agent :/